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Gordon Taylor In Credit Crunch Warning To Sheikh

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Manchester united and Chelsea have both broken transfer records repeatedly down the years. The PFA reaction? No comment. But AC Milan ask for £100 million off City...

10 years ago next week City drew 1-1 at Walsall in Football League Division One and you get the impression that despite all the blood sweat and tears that it has taken to bring the club back from the abyss, there is a belief out there among senior English footballing figures that how dare liddle ciddy and their diehard, frequently tortured fans be in a position to rock European football's establishment, nevermind this country's.

Not only certain sports hacks, particularly the hysterical rag biased Daily Mirror but Sir Bobby Robson, Alan Shearer, Steve Coppell, Ian Wright, Dave Whelan, Harry Redknapp, Joe Royle, Martin O'Neill with City obsessives Arsene Wenger and Taggart have now been joined by PFA Chairman Gordon Taylor in their condemnation of City's attempts to bring the brilliant Kaka to England. Only Das Daily Mail's Martin Samuel seems to have talked sense this week.

Taylor however, has addressed the situation with a difference, as he believes that the entertainment and escape for many of us that is football should ensure it reminds us all that the governments, bank leaders and company chief executives of this world have sent the financial world into meltdown as a result of their greed and mismanagement. Indeed, he rates this issue alongside combatting racism in it's importance:

'It is a bit bizarre that, in these times of credit crunch, we are talking about a club paying £100m for one player.

'One of the things we have to ask football sending out the right signals given the current financial climate?

'Football needs to set a good example to the rest of the world, as we do with our anti-racism programmes and community projects.

'Football cannot be immune from the credit crunch and whilst City are an exception to the rule, the game has a duty to show financial propriety at this moment in time.'

What next? Should His Highness Sheikh Mansour pack it all in and start building the hospitals and prisons that Britain needs?

I'm no financial expert or great thinker on the worlds problems. I still, as a lifelong City fan can't get my head around all this let alone the past two years events. All I do know is that the fans who travelled to Walsall 10 years ago are starting to get some entertaining reward for their support at last and right now I can't even begin to comprehend the impact all this is having upon the footballing world, let alone the society as a whole. What would other team's with similar histories supporters do? What would the pontificating Wenger do in Mark Hughes shoes?

File under 'You couldn't make it up.' All we are missing now is a bandwaggoning Member of Parliament and the courageous Premier League top brass joining in and we'll have the whole lot of them after the all new Evil City Empire.


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Writer: Johnny Baguette Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Friday January 16 2009

Time: 7:55PM

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City will sign - KAKA... HAHA!
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16/01/2009 20:18:00

A couple of hypothetical questions: 1) If you win the league three seasons from now by buying ready-made world superstars, would you feel as though you were completing your ambition of suporting Man City? Is that the way you want to win? 2) What would your reaction be if Fulham were suddenly taken over by an owner with twice the resources than your own, and won the league next season by doing the same?
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16/01/2009 20:25:00

well arsenal rob id say even though we buy world stars they still have to play well as a TEAM in order to win things, and would have to grind out results as well as winning comfortably so id have to say 1).yes that is the way i want to win things 2).well done Fulham as that would be yet another team who would challenge the so called 'untouchables' of the top four club. and before i get upset with you how long have arsenal been robbing feeder clubs of all their young talent at rock bottom prices(so give over with the holier than thou act).it seems to me that you fans of the top 4 especially your arse boys are seemingly very worried about who is taking your place this year aston villa, everton, or man city maybe all 3 ,where will you be without your champions leauge money i wonder,with that stadium to pay for living on your generated money or suddenly desperate to sell.or maybe your just gutted because if your board had accepted the proposal from our owners before they came to us youd be buying KAKA right now!!
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16/01/2009 20:36:00

Ok, Arsenal Rob. Here you go...1) Sheikh Mansour has promised to continue to commit to the superb MCFC Academy and has already built a state of the art gym for the squad. The intention is to continue the City policy of blooding the youngsters that have kept our club afloat and blending top stars around them. 23 have broken through to date and we currently have Micah Richards, SWP, Stevie Ireland, Nedum Onuoha, Ched Evans, Daniel Sturridge, kasper Schmeichel, Shaleum Logan, and Ched Evans as established squqd members. The new owners are building bridges with the Manchester Community and we look to be in good hands. So no, we won't win anything with a ready made side. 2) As I said previously the ready made side won't happen and we have won nothing. There is no of course no divine right to be one of The Big Four even though Chelsea bought the league using only John Terry from their international based youth set up.
Johnny Baguette
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16/01/2009 20:47:00

All these Holy Joe's don't realise that Sheikh Mansour has done his bit towards the British Economy by bailing out Barclays Bank which saved our Government a potful of money. His next move will be a regeneration programme for East Manchester it is not all about football he is very community minded as well.
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16/01/2009 20:48:00

Our apologies ArsenalRob we mistakenly thought you guys had actually bought players so we are going out to do the same ...we didn't realise that all you guys came up through your academy
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16/01/2009 20:49:00

Point of order: City won the FA Youth Cup with a side full of kids who had been at Maine Road and Eastlands since 9 years old. Chelsea had one English boy in their side. the rest bought up for millions from around the world.
Johnny Baguette
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16/01/2009 20:51:00

Superb post, alphie.
Johnny Baguette
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16/01/2009 20:51:00

italia7482, I am not trying to sound 'holier than thou'. I see your point about 'robbing' youngsters from other clubs, but it still takes a lot to find them and we do provide them with an oportunity to play at the highest level that they would not find probably anywhere else. I agree it isn't saintly in many ways, but I think overall it provides a positive contribution to football, as many go on to achieve great things whether at or away from Arsenal. I am fully aware of the fact that even 'super-stars' would have to work extremely hard to grind out results, but do you not feel that it is a bit of a cheap (not litterally of course...) way of attracting superstars, simply paying them and their former clubs with somebody else's money. As for the hypothetical Fulham issue, although I have plenty of respect for Fulham, they clearly don't merit a place as one of footballs 'superpowers'. The way out should be to work hard and earn your position, rather than just putting yourself up for sale. It is becoming increasingly possible that in order to match clubs such as Man City, other clubs will resort to similar means, which would result in astronomic fees which could be used in far better ways, whether that is by improving the acadamy or for more charritable purposes. 100 Million? That could pay for 5 major clinical trials into Aids/HIV research! Also, if simply spewing out such cash becomes customary, acadamies would be made redundent, as clubs would be focusing merely on buying ready-made world-class players, which leads to the decline in standard of football, which in turn leads to less interest in football, which in turn leads to less investment and then.... We're back to square one.... It may seem over the top but it is definately not impossible.
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16/01/2009 20:56:00

alphieblues... Credid to him and I gladly admit I didn't know that, but I still think this is getting out of hand.
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16/01/2009 20:58:00

and Doody, yes we did buy all of our players. But we did so out of money that we produced by running a football club, not by seeking foreign investment.
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16/01/2009 20:59:00

WE didn't set the fee Arsenal Rob. Milan did..
Buzz Lightyear
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16/01/2009 21:03:00

ArsenalRob, Why do you accept build a big stadium from foreign investment ?!! And you reject foreign investment if he go to other clubs !!
city 81
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16/01/2009 22:09:00

It seems to me that those who are complaining the most about City's new found wealth seem to be those fans from the 'Big Four' (soon to be 5 or 6), particularly those from the arse or rags. Are they worried that all of a sudden they won't get in the champions league and get all that money to buy the best players? What will they do then? It seems most other fans wish us well.
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17/01/2009 00:15:00

Hang on a minute while i break out the worlds smallest violin for you poor,picked on City people...........big friggin difference between paying a lot less than the world record transfer fee,(Chelsea and Utd payed what,between 20 and 30 mill for a few players)to more than doubling it,with 30 mill going to agent,family members and others with invested interests,and then giving the guy half a million a week to play!Over 4 times the highest wages out there.People are not jealous,breaking the monotony of the premiership would be good to see,and i've always liked City as a club,but i think you're deluding yourselves if you can't see that this proposed deal is obscene,not good for football and possibly in the long run not good for your club.Sorry guys everybody would love to see Kaka at their club,but I hope it doesn't happen.Nobody cared you got Robinho,and that was the British record.
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17/01/2009 00:46:00

You just gotta ask (and they should do the same) ... why all this hysterical abuse by Arsenal supporters about what another Club is doing? Is it jealousy or panicky fear? Either way, they kid themselves if they really think that others should do what they want. Personally, I don't give a damn What Wenger and his lot do. City is for its own fans and we don't go around pleading for their owners to save the world instead of running a football club. 'Nuff said!
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17/01/2009 01:51:00

I think its because we went to Milan and said How much for Kaka and they gave us a price. What if we did the same at Arsenal for Fabregas, such an amount that they board of directors would say we could use the money. I think thats what the worry is.I think this is a one off occasion and our owners wont go and do this sort of thing again.It was like a PR stunt, No-one heard of Manchester City, well they have now.
Buzz Lightyear
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17/01/2009 05:48:00

Grauniad: For us, Kaka is the ultimate craque of modern times: Brazil's leading football writer on why the planet's best player will be worth every penny to Man City:
Johnny Baguette
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17/01/2009 07:07:00

To be honest, it has nothing to do with me being an Arsenal fan. I'd respect Aston Villa if they broke in to the top 4 this year, becasuse they have done so by slowly growing a team and working hard to win matches. I know you will do the same, and I respect Sheik Mansour's patience for doing it, but it just doesn't seem right. I think a football club's current position should be based on its past, i.e The history of managers and players who have guided it to this position. Man City were in a slight decline before being taken over, and your path should have been to work yourselves ouy of it by using what you had to the best of your ablilty. Instead, you simply get taken over, get loads of cash and all of a sudden you're chasing Kaka and Robinho. That shouldn't be the way a football club works. Everything that you had been trying to achieve is suddenly thrown away and new plans are written to suit the new investment. I actually quite liked Man City, but I don't think the one owned by Sheik Mansour is the same club.
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17/01/2009 08:00:00

Olebluey, it's panicky fear, thats what it, is but I fear for football not just, as you may think, for Arsenal.
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17/01/2009 08:02:00

You haven't mentioned the commitments the new owner has already made to MCFC's Academy and the Manchester Community, Rob. Any thoughts?
Johnny Baguette
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17/01/2009 09:07:00

Rob, "100 Million? That could pay for 5 major clinical trials into Aids/HIV research!" - How about that other entertainment industry, the film industry and the money wasted there for starters? Get after them? We all know that Sheikh Mansour bailed out Barclays Bank. Are you at the heavily sponsored Emirates Stadium suggesting that City's owner should pull the plug and set about saving the world? Spurs spent 140 million in under 2 years. What about them? Until the greed run and obsessed football super powers get a grip and implement salary caps, transfer ceilings and starting XI limits, then the monster that people like Gordon Taylor have stood by and allowed to develop will continue to become the nightmare you fear. There's nothing any of us fans can do about it except tune out, switch off and drop out if we don't like it.
Johnny Baguette
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17/01/2009 09:20:00

I'm surprised that we have not been blamed as the reason for Zimbabwi having to produce a Trillion dollar note.......
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17/01/2009 09:30:00

JB, good on him, as I said earlier. Well done, genuinely he is more intelligent than some of these other tycoon*s, and yes the film industry etc, is also outrageously expensive, but its products are shared worldwide, rather than being done just for one sect, I just think the money is being used with too much self-indulgence. I'm not saying the world is perfect except for you, but I think that we have to be careful that football stays less expensive than industries such as the film industry. I'M NOT TRYING TO BLAME YOU FOR THE WORLD'S PROBLEMS, I'M JUST SAYING THAT FOOTBALL NEEDS TO BE CAREFUL NOT TO SELF-DESTRUCT BY BECOMING A GAME WHERE MONEY IS EVERYTHING.
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17/01/2009 10:19:00

That started with the Premier League, Rob.
Johnny Baguette
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17/01/2009 10:55:00

Billionaire oligarch Alisher Usmanov has a 14.6% stake in Arsenal. Billionaire tycoon* Stanley Kroenke has a 12.5% stake in Arsenal. The story goes that Kroenke made the board alongside Hill-Wood to fend off Usmanov taking over but the oligarch has suffered massive losses. You can bet your life that if these two could afford it they'd buy the club out. Furthermore, if Hill-Wood had the Sheikh's money at his disposal, he'd spend it. Football IS a business and money rules it even at Arsenal.
Johnny Baguette
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17/01/2009 14:14:00

What started with the premier league? the fact is that such investment being used for such purposes will leave other clubs with little choice but to follow the same path and before you know it fees have inflated from 15 million for a world-class player to 250 million, and the wages could end up being a million per week. It's crazy! That isn't helful for football, or the rest of the world. As for Arsenal, of course we have some foreign tycoon*s have shares in our club, but they don't have a controlling stake, and we had tried everything we could to stop Usmanov getting shares, including inviting Kroenke onto the board to counter-act Usmanov's efforts. As for Hill-Wood having the Sheikh's money, no I don't think he would spend it in such a manner, but that's besides the point. The fact is that Sheikh Mansour DOES have that money and that Man City ARE spending it outrageously. I don't care if other people in other industries have done it, or weather other football clubs would do it if they could, the fact is you are doing it, and i, like most others, don't want football to become a business. Football IS NOT just a business. It is a game where different philosophies, including financial, economic and footballing, ideas are incorporated by different teams and people to try to mould a club that functions in the way you want to. Simply paying rediculous amounts of money to achieve this is not only an unsporting way to achieve your goals in terms of your own club, but it will have negative effects on the rest of football.
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17/01/2009 15:56:00

I admire your beliefs and philosophy Rob, but I'm afraid it's all too far gone now and that money become everything in English Football did indeed start with The Premier League's creation.
Johnny Baguette
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17/01/2009 16:10:00

We are on that path JB, but it has not reached the point where it is irreversible. I'm just concerned that if your club continues to spend so much, other clubs will react by doing the same, and there will be no going back before English football is in ruins.
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17/01/2009 16:43:00


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