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The Old Trafford Extra Time Big Match Reaction



Referee Martin Atkinson blew the final whistle on 96 minutes 58 seconds after the rags second favourite Scouser scored on 95 minutes and 28 seconds...

The rival managers give their reaction to the 4-3 derby...

Taggart, magnanimous as ever:

'What can you say. We have thrown three goals away at them. It could have been an embarrassment today. It could have been six or 7-0 if we had defended our proper way, our normal way, we could have won by a big score today.

'But making mistakes was an essence of the game it became the best derby game of all time. So what do you choose? One of the best derby games of all time or win 6-0?'

'We have a neighbour, and sometimes neighbours are noisy, but we showed our power today and we get on with life.'

Mark Hughes, seething but proud:

'The board had gone up for four minutes of additional time at the same time as Craig Bellamy made it 3-3.

'The additional time after the four minutes didn`t sit comfortably with me. We feel aggrieved. Everyone in the stadium knew the time allotted. I would like an explanation why more was added on but I rather doubt that I will get it. The fourth official said time was added because of our goal celebration but that lasted only forty-five seconds.'

(Fourth official Alan Wiley was seen on TV gleefully joking with Taggart as the united manager pointed to his watch after The English Patient hit the winner.)

'What is really upsetting is that we have no tangible reward for a huge effort and that other people played a hand in the result.

'It is a bit raw at the moment to see any positives but we will pick the bones out of the match and be ready to go again on Wednesday in a competition that is important to us. We can't dwell on this or feel sorry for ourselves.

'We showed great quality at times, especially to come back three times in the manner that we did. I was disappointed with all the goals that we gave away and that we allowed ourselves to be penned back at times. We had to deal with too many balls into our box for my liking but Craig Bellamy scored two magnificent goals and we kept coming back at United.

'We dug deep and we were spurred on by our great backing and I am sorry for them that we didn't take at least a point from the match. We have to be more bloody minded but more than anything I am disappointed that we haven't got the reward that our efforts deserved.'

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Writer: Johnny Baguette Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Sunday September 20 2009

Time: 5:45PM

Your Comments

I don't think it is acceptable for the referee to point to a goal celebration which continued into the four minutes of extra time. I assume the referee thinks he is "safe" with that within the rules. I believe the referee has decided to penalise City for pulling level so close to the end. The whole matter stinks to high heaven.
Sindbad
The rules state that 30 seconds are allowed to be added for a goal. It doesn't matter how long the celebration was (Hughes said it was about 40 seconds). I noticed he didn't add on another 3 minutes after they scored. Their celebration was longer than ours. Why's that then? Oh I forgot... we're City so if we need a goal the game ends immediately.
MCFC_Goatboy
Ouch! Baaaaa! Feckin great game to watch though.
Zbam
Ah well - another Utd OT win hehehe
niteworlok
hope the fa throw the book at the rags for TWO,count em TWO incidents involving utd fans.one,when the coin was thrown at garrido and two when the rag fan ran on the pitch. was funny,on talksport while ago a female rag fan texted in saying 'bellamy should be punished for pushing him' and the lads just laughed at it!
mcfcirish
Whatever comments fergie makes is due to fear. I dont care what he says.The ref had no excuse. Chelsea v spurs had two players strectured of due to injury. This took up 15minutes of play, the 4th official said 7mins injury time should be played. And the game had exactly 7mins injury time, no more, no less. Derby game had no injuries, no player squabbles, no time wasting, no pitch invasion, no air plane landing on the pitch, no mardi gra march on the pitch to justify 4mins extra time. Where the extra 2mins come from i dont know. I urge the media to focuss in on fergie and the 4th official sharing a joke after rags scored. Just moments after hughes questioned why the game wasnt finished 2mins ago.
enzo city
Chelsea fan here. I was actually hoping for a draw for obvious reasons. but I think its evident for a while but especially now that we have a new law of physicas in the EPL>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Old Trafford+Referees+Penalties+Fake Extra Time+Luck=3pts............ I think i can take out the Luck part.
iwearblue
Amazing how the hacks are tiptoeing around the 7 minutes and none of them have the bottle to question Taggart over it. Daniel Taylor, the Guardian's Manchester hack has now revealed himself to be a rag. Ban him from Carrington.
Johnny Baguette
If richards had even a average game than a awful one we would have got something
enzo city
In the Chelsea Spuds game there was what 15 minutes worth of stoppages due to injuries... we had none at all and there was about the same amount of injury time in both games. What a joke.
MCFC_Goatboy
I reckon Micah will be benched in midweek for Zaba.
Johnny Baguette
chelsea fan here... tomorrow's headlines should read: manure win by a golden goal. (and that's only because an honest reaction to that farce of an injury time calculation would be unprintable). you guys were robbed. no question. i'm beginning to think that game would have gone on another 45 mins if manure didn't find a winner. disgusting, sullying the beautiful game. and when you think about how tight title races are getting, the title in may could be won on the basis of a blatant refereeing decision. my sympathies are with you guys. you have every reason to be livid.
johnny come lately
Santa might get some play time in the week too.
MCFC_Goatboy
I think I saw a clip on XXXtube of the ref and the linesman giving red nose a three way blow job
iwearblue
Yea that is true. we did have about 8 minutes of injury time due to THREE injuries. I didnt remember any injuries in your game. only goal celebrations. OUTRAGEOUS
iwearblue
Cheers iwear. The physios never even entered the field in the second half at the swamp. A total disgrace.
Johnny Baguette
What will be done about this mess. what if the league is decided by two points with them. but with all honesty although it was a disgrace. Micah Richards was at fault for that last gasp though.
iwearblue
almost seems like manure enter every season some 9-10 points to the good without even kicking a ball. most valuable man u player every season: the ref. what a farce.
johnny come lately
once again their is nothing but whinging and whining from you deluded saddoes why cant you accept the fact that you lost and get on with your sad sad lives i watched the match, and the only reason you didnt get 6 or 7 put by you, eas that your goalie had the game of his life as i said last week, talk is cheap and form is temporary but class is permament 200 million will get you stuff all this season
cornish gooner
stop whinging u fool johnny, u robbed Arsenal last week when the ref was ur most valuable player not sending off ur dirty cheating Citeh scummy players face it ur never gonna be top4 HAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHA
isaacb25
I WEAR BLUE u dirty chelsea fan, how can u talk abotu ref decisions when ur dirty russian owner pays off Howard Webb to not give penalties against u, how blatent of a penalty was that but no it cant be given against the gay boys
isaacb25
I find it real amusing the two blue scumbag teams of the league Citeh and Chelsea fans both uniting ha, both sell out teams, shame that despite all the money of both teams u can never buy one thing....... HISTORY, 'WHERES YOUR EUROPEAN CUP, WHERES YOUR EUROPEAN CUP' COME ON guys where is IT??????
isaacb25
i see vital arsenal and chelsea must have closed due to lack of business and their rejects have wandered onto our pages.
mcfcirish
the injury time was a joke, whoever you support. not 1 injury 2nd half, and 4 mins + 3 mins until utd win. unbelievable. fa should investigate. if anyone has the official fa complaints address please post here.
darryl28
mcfcirish, all the Chelsea fans here, iwearblue, JCL and myself are actually in your defence. You lot were robbed, bu blatant fixing of that match. The ref would've continued till they got a goal! It stinks of poor refereeing and greater corruption. If you lot are signing some petition of protest or something then I'm in. I'm signing it too. The injustice is plain to see. This is just like how UEFA robbed us off a CL final..
JT_daniel
isaac, foot in your mouth (must be a regular situation for you am sure). i'm not a city fan, but chelsea!!! we have still to play arsenal this season (and such a prospect hardly scares us, in case you haevn't noticed already). any how, as any neutral observer (which i am in this case) will tell you honestly, city were robbed in broad daylight by the ref. is there a deal? i don't know. is it sheer incompetence, i don't know. or is it because the international time-keeping authorities situated in the antartic decided to add extra seconds to compensate for a million leap years since the beginning of time, i don't know. whatever, manure always seem to benefit from such events. city were robbed. football stands disgraced. end of story.
johnny come lately
JT you are one of the guys who comes on with something relevant to say,however the majority of your fellow chelsea supporters havent much to say really.
mcfcirish
and isaac, do you have anything for an encore. you stuck record. poor sod.
johnny come lately
Darryl u must be very dumb in all honesty, its stoppage time not just injury time, there were 3 goals scored in second half b4 they put the board up for 4mins, in which ther were goal celebrations which account for the time u muppet
isaacb25
mcirish, you're generalising. this is probably my first time at vital city, and it's to show you guys solidarity against what has been a pathetic disgrace. :)
johnny come lately
JCL, u dirty rent boy listen up how do u not understand a minimum of 4 minutes stoppage time? u uneducated fool, how u consider them to be robbed i dont know
isaacb25
isaachb25 you God forsaken idiot, the calculated extra time includes all the stoppages before the 90 minutes are up. Now I get it, you must be some idiotic United fan sitting in some corner of the world, with no inkling about the rules, trying to wind up other supporters! Poor slob, I pity you..
JT_daniel
i dont wanna hear ur robbed story, what is ur thoughts on the blatent penalty for Robbie Keane at the Bridge? imo spurs have been robbed by u boys
isaacb25
Its makes it feel better, when something like that happening, OK we lost, but I still feel that we made a statement here today. Yes we were under pressure for most of the 2nd half, but it was a great game for the neutral and we are here to stay.
buzz lightyear
isaachb25 you God forsaken idiot, the calculated extra time includes all the stoppages before the 90 minutes are up. Now I get it, you must be some idiotic United fan sitting in some corner of the world, with no inkling about the rules, trying to wind up other supporters! Poor slob, I pity you..
JT_daniel
JCL i am,i admit it and i appologise,in all honesty its mainly the arsenal fans who have been coming on here and causing trouble. so im sorry to any chelsea fans who have something relevant to say.
mcfcirish
isaacb25, the refereeing was poor all round. We were denied a stonewall penalty when Assou Ekoto put his arm over his head when Lampard was taking a freekick, and the ball struck his arm, in the 60th minute. He was 6 yards into the box too. And in the 8th minute, a great through ball from Malouda which put Drogba clean on goal was wrongly called for offside, when not more than a few micrometers of Drogba's hair was offside (Rules say that the benefit of doubt go to the attacker). Counter that you muppet.
JT_daniel
u robbed Arsenal last week u scumbags, u cheated them outta the game with ur foul play
isaacb25
Cheers, mcfcirish, we understand. And this isaacb25 is a United supporter, I think..
JT_daniel
Yaawn. A broken record, this fella.
JT_daniel
isaacfootinthemouth, you should apply for the post of head of the mathematics dept at stanford or wherever. job's yours. no contest. 3 goals BEFORE the board went up. by your own construction, that's why there were 4 minutes (still doesn't add up though) still doesn't account for the 3 mins beyond the 4. and if the alleged added time was for goal (celebrations), tell me, same day, chelsea-spurs, two second half goals, plus two lengthy injury stoppages (bassong was like on the pitch for 8 mins himself), by your space age math, it should have been 8+ 3 (drogba injury) + at least 2 mins for two goals... 13 minutes? there were 8! so don't bust a bloodvessel defending the indefensible. the more you try to wriggle in your putrid stew, the more you're convincing others it was a set up.
johnny come lately
yeh i am a United fan, ur going on about Citey being apparently robbed, but how much of a hypocrit are u when the refs are on ur side, when they blatently dont give penalties against u.....like today, u dont seem to be saying much about that, u wernt complaining last week when u scored two goals in extra time against Stoke when it was debatable over the time added were u
isaacb25
isaac, you wanna hear reactions from level headed fans? (which you will never be in a zillion years). carvalho on keane at the bridge was a penalty, no question. every chelsea fan will tell you that. so was assou-ekoute's (or however you pronounce that), blatant hand on the lampard FK some time later, same game. but even those can be dismissed as subjective and depending on where the ref was. but 7 mins for 4 (don't go about your minimum rule, you're sounding like a scratched and stuck record), daylight robbery would be putting it mildly.
johnny come lately
isaacb how about the rooney dive at the swap vs the gunners?was THAT fair?
mcfcirish
and if you think about it, keane penalty in conjunction with the spurs handling off the lampard FK, final score 4-1. if you see robbery in there, you'd see an elephant swimming in a shot of hennessey.
johnny come lately
JT daniel, the offside decisions are border line and difficult to make i admit and also i admit Drog might have been onside in the first half (first 10mins), but u were pretty lucky today imo, towards the end i see another blatent foul by a cole on Crouch just barging into him when hes trying to win the ball in the air, once again nothing done, take the first 20mins defoe fouled by the dirty carvalho or terry in a promising positon again no foul
isaacb25
mcirish, thinks we should save our breath mate. isaac is a united fan. they come with blinkers tightly screwed on ;)
johnny come lately
Rooney dive against Arsenal, cant agree it was a dive, do i consider kciking RVP in the head fair or stamping on Fabregas fair, no but ade still managed to get away with it in the game when it mattered and then steered the game in ur advantage obviously by scoring when he shoudlnt have been on the field
isaacb25
isaac, agree with you (minus the misplaced adjectives of course). but for every carvalho on keane, and ashley on crouch, there was an assou-ekote handling and corluka (i think) on ballack. like daniel said, this would point to poor refereeing, not blatant robbery which you guys benefitted from.
johnny come lately
not seen any of the spurs chelsea game isaacb but you are obviously either stupid or deluded. if i was a utd fan i would be counting my lucky stars not trying to justify the incompetent refereeing. I pray that you scumbags are hit for 7 mins added time in a vital champions league match after coming from behind twice when there have been no injuries whatsoever. how utd fans can say they deserved that amount of time beggars belief.
darryl28
another thing,how come the utd fans stopped singing everytime city got level?yalk about the emirates being quite.
mcfcirish
i must admit i got bored of the chelsea game after 2-0 and didnt see the assou handball incident tbh, the corluka incident on ballack first half was debatable but not even Andy g thoguht it was a pen , but i think we all must admit Ballack is a cheat and would look for it, after his performance in this years community shield, which could bring up another debate of being robbed lol
isaacb25
I was watching the match & i too was flabbergasted at the length of extra time played on by the Ref. 1 minute more at the MOST for the sub + goal celebration. But we know what happened. You were robbed, guys !!
ZeeNut
not seen any of the spurs chelsea game isaacb but you are obviously either stupid or deluded. if i was a utd fan i would be counting my lucky stars not trying to justify the incompetent refereeing. I pray that you scumbags are hit for 7 mins added time in a vital champions league match after coming from behind twice when there have been no injuries whatsoever. how utd fans can say they deserved that amount of time beggars belief.
darryl28
not seen any of the spurs chelsea game isaacb but you are obviously either stupid or deluded. if i was a utd fan i would be counting my lucky stars not trying to justify the incompetent refereeing. I pray that you scumbags are hit for 7 mins added time in a vital champions league match after coming from behind twice when there have been no injuries whatsoever. how utd fans can say they deserved that amount of time beggars belief.
darryl28
Darryl, i dont think we were lucky in all honesty i feel we deserved to win and u wer lucky to score 3 goals, 2 were gift wrapped for u. does any1 kno the exact timing of owens goal?
isaacb25
another thing to take into consideration was when the kick off started after bellamys second goal? any1 know these exact times
isaacb25
not seen any of the spurs chelsea game isaacb but you are obviously either stupid or deluded. if i was a utd fan i would be counting my lucky stars not trying to justify the incompetent refereeing. I pray that you scumbags are hit for 7 mins added time in a vital champions league match after coming from behind twice when there have been no injuries whatsoever. how utd fans can say they deserved that amount of time beggars belief.
darryl28
darryl u are obviously stupid to have posted the same thing not once, not twice, but 3 times,
isaacb25
darryl28,utd will be lucky to make it past the group stages.
mcfcirish
i seem to remember 96++ on the clock. yes u dominated 2nd half but that isnt the point, you could argue that we gift wrapped ur goals too via shoddy defending
darryl28
make it a fourth time, well done darryl
isaacb25
bellamys time was 45 secs was on SSN.
mcfcirish
dont know what happened with the posting isaacb but you should be a politician with that kind of sharp mind
darryl28
i somehow think you kno deep down mcfcirish that United will make it past the CL groupstage, im not saying we will win it but that is a really silly comment
isaacb25
wow, ballack robbed you at the shield? that calls for a celebration. time to open the 1942 i've been saving up. there is justice after all.
johnny come lately
is it isaacb?only time will tell.chelsea will win the league and fa cup.city the carling cup and finish fourth.go add that to your diary.
mcfcirish
mcfc ur saying that kick off started at 90:45 after bellamys goal?
isaacb25
isaacb25 as i recall John Terry gave you the most recent one. and if we paid Webb u must have missed the Ekkoto Hand ball. Im sorry you missed it. you was sitting on Red Nose's lap licking a Ronaldo lolly pop
iwearblue
jcl ur proving urself to be pretty hypocritical, ballack is a cheat full stop, he elbowed evra and then u went and scored from that, we were quite clearly robbed there. u kno what chant was pretty good from the yids today '3-0 and u still dont sing'!
isaacb25
and ballack is a cheat? yeah right. this from a fan of a club that till recently revered the 'great' ronaldo. everytime divaboy did his acrobatic 3-and-a-half-sommersaults, face-plastered-on-the-grass-like-he-had-been-shot-by-a-firing-squad, routine, what surprised me most was the absence of fanfare from the newyork philharmonic orchestra.
johnny come lately
iscabb im saying it was 45 secs from goal to kick off.
mcfcirish
but then the NY philharmonic must come at a pretty price. cheaper to purchase 3 extra minutes on top of the 4, i suspect.
johnny come lately
do u no the exact kick off time after bellamys goal?
isaacb25
isaac, of course manure will get past the group stages!! but in the event they don't, don't fret, a few extra minutes can always be purchased. would sir like to place the order already. oh, and bulk discounts and early birds too. seeing as you're gonna need all the help you can this season ;)
johnny come lately
it was 95:20 when Owen scored. all this talk from i c aarscb25 like i said you must have been sitting on Red Nose's lap and sucking your Ronaldo blow pop when it happened
iwearblue
isaac, you'd do sherlock homes proud. leave it be. quit trying to justify the unjustifiable. enjoy the ill-gotten 2 (extra) points. after all that huffing and puffing still 3 points behind the champions designate though ;) merry xmas already.
johnny come lately
I wearblue and johnny come back to me when you've won a european cup and then we can start talking !!!!
isaacb25
iwearblue tell me why is it that even when ur 3-0 up at home ur fans still cant generate the slightest bit of noise/atmosphere
isaacb25
i will mate. and you come back to be when your finish with that blow pop
iwearblue
yeh okay u filthy rentboy give it a rest, i kno its difficult not being able to consider ur team as one of Europe's greats, remember when the names of Barca, Real, AC, Juve, Inter, United and even the scousers are mentioned u boys aren't in that same bracket all coz JT couldnt convert that pen. ur skipper is an absolute bottler who u probably adore u fag
isaacb25
Unlucky today boys. Just remember that you played them without Robinho and Adebayor. ...It will be a different story at Eastlands. Good luck for the rest of the season. ps If taggart thinks it could have been 7 - 0 then Hughes has obviously got under his skin far more than the hacks would ever dare write about it
5 times
thanks 5 times :) nice to have you on our side!
mcfcirish
we lost today, now we go on and beat the rest, taggart was flummoxed as to what to do and needed a referee to help him, next up fulham in the carling cup,lets move on guys and get our revenge at COMS. WE MAY HAVE LOST THE BATTLE BUT THE WAR IS THERE TO BE WON....
cityman51
MOTD2 timed the goal at 1 second over what it should have been. Just unlucky on the day but you did defend very poorly.
iceman10
Utd win again - and City are stopped in their stride....
Sour grapes if yuou ask me - NOBODY would have moaned if City had won it so quit moaning about the timing and get over it - FA cant do anything about the goal - it was fair and square - remember City COULD have scored themselves in the extra minute or 2
niteworlok
iceman - except the ref is only allowed to allow 30 seconds for a goal not a minute - also where did the 4 minutes come from?
MCFC_Goatboy
It's done and dusted now though. I move on. Still proud of the fight in the lads today.
MCFC_Goatboy
yes it took hours for me thinking we lost it even after the brilliant efforts from our strikers.how it must'be for them!!must be bizarre feelings,it must'be haunting them so they should move on from the united result considering the fact that they made a brilliant fight.come on guys step up for the next game we will back you.think about the unbeatable run we had and everything will change guys..
neverstops
fat ass comment was stupid,he was saying, they must have won the game 6-0,how he can be such a arrogant.you cannot beat Burnley at their home you call yourself the best in europe even after the ignominious defeat at the hands of Barca who played a second best defense to beat you..that shows your attackers quality even with lady boy.now you say you can score 6 goals first do it once before you speak.
neverstops
Its funny all the Arsenal fans on here bleating about our narrow loss to the current PL champions after we thrashed the gunners last week. Hardly a signal that we cant make the top 4. Enjoy 5th place arsenal, all your best players leaving and going into administration because you cant afford to pay your loans- Joke team.
eighthsin
Just timed the Owen goal celebration - from the time the ref blew for the goal and blowing for the restart 1min 17sec elapsed - after a further 13 sec he blew the whistle. Bellamy's goal celebration took 48sec - enough said.
Thaibluefan
Turns out that Taggart publicly slated Atkinson last season for losing united the FA Cup by favouring Portsmouth. Another Funny Old Trafford Thing.
Johnny Baguette
GRAHAM POLL....In my after dinner speech I often tell how I got the ‘hairdryer’ from Sir Alex Ferguson on one of my first visits to Old Trafford for not knowing one of the rules of football; at the home of Manchester United you play until they win!....I struggled to see where the additional, additional time came from which enabled United to score the winner. Alan Wiley, the fourth official showed the time allowed - as decided by Atkinson - as four minutes, which I felt was reasonable given the substitutions and number of goals. There was one further substitution in the time allowed, Carrick for Anderson, for which 30 seconds is usually allowed. I therefore expected the final whistle at 94.30, as did Mark Hughes. The Owen winning goal was timed at 95.28 and so I could fully understand the City boss’s frustration.
Johnny Baguette
isaac boy here we go another red nose cross dresser bringing up how old dust is on some teams trophies. yea yea yea weve heard that argument before but many of those teams you mentioned their history is just that "history". And every team has history mate. not just by trophies. and if its trophies you mean here at CFC we have them not as many as others but we have them. Oh and can I add that their dust isnt older than some of my kids (listening Poo?). Forwards Europe 5 semi finals in 6 years is history mate and as you know only bad luck has kept us from grabbing it. In the EPL and Europe i'd rather have the present and future rather than 100 year dust mate. maybe your girlfriend is the founders old mistress thats still alive thats why you got to entertain about history huh? Finish that Ronaldo blow pop hoping the harder u suck it the more chance he has of coming back (in your throat)
iwearblue
Why doest someone report Manure about the officials. This is getting waaaay out of hand.
iwearblue
3 weeks ago the Arse fans were whining about how manure cheated them of 3 points. Now they are posting messages taking the mick out of us because we were cheated by the scum? You really couldn't make hyppocrisy of that magnitude up. At least both the manure and arse fans have one thing in common - the ability to defend the indefensible when it suits their case!
fifthcolumnblue
u city fans are really thick arent u, u chelsea fans too, if u had watched motd2 yesterday where they proved the goal was legitimate as extra time didnt start till 91st min, and plus the substitution meant it should have ended at around 95 30, owen scored at 95 26 so shutup and stop moaning!
isaacb25
iwearblue u i would smash u up u dirty rentboy!
isaacb25
GARY NEVILLE SHOWED U CITY FANS HAHHAHA, YES GARY TAUNTING U DIRTY BLUE CITEH FANS AHAHHAHAHA
isaacb25
Threatening to smash someon up is not big, not clever and not tolerated on Vital football.
fifthcolumnblue
Cornish Gooner - City 4 Arsenal 2 enough said.
Kevinho
 

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