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How Injury Or Stoppage Time Is Calculated

Vital Manchester City regular, MCFC_Goatboy sent us the following:

There's lots of talk about whether the time added on was or was not correct in the recent derby. So lets look at what the rules say:

FA Rules

Many stoppages in play are entirely natural (e.g. throw-ins, goal kicks). An allowance is to be made only when these delays are excessive.

The fourth official indicates the minimum additional time decided by the referee at the end of the final minute of each period of play.

The announcement of the additional time does not indicate the exact amount of time left in the match. The time may be increased if the referee considers it appropriate but never reduced.

The referee must not compensate for a timekeeping error during the first half by increasing or reducing the length of the second half.

Dermot Gallagher (former referee)

'From Euro 96 we've had this standardisation that we're going to play 30 seconds per substitution, and for excessive goal celebrations we're to play another 30 seconds - so it starts to tot up, and this is why we find the three or four minutes we have on average at most games.'

Right so lets break it down:

In the second half there were no injury delays and the medical team never went on the pitch once.

There was no time wasting by either side.

There was four substitutions in total (including the injury time substitution). So now we are on two minutes (30 seconds a sub).

There were four goals before the Owen goal. For the sake of argument lets say that for every one of them there were excessive goal celebrations (which there obviously wasn't). That's another two minutes (four minutes total).

So where did the initial four minutes come from? I make it three (discounting the injury time Bellamy goal and one sub) and that's assuming excessive goal celebrations. One additional minute for the goal and sub in extra time leads me to a grand total of four minutes.

Now that grand total as mentioned is assuming there was excessive celebration for every single goal. Match of the Day timed it and said it was correct give or take a second...but that's assuming you give nearly a minute for the Bellamy goal when it's been confirmed by the Man Utd fan Dermot Gallagher that 30 seconds is the rule. That's also assuming that four minutes was warranted.

I'm bitter of course and angry that we lost but make of it what you will. The rules as set out by the FA and by a former referee are both above. Make your own mind up. I have and I firmly believe we were robbed. As do many fans excluding Arsenal fans bitter about last week and Man United fans.

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Writer: MCFC_Goatboy  Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Tuesday September 22 2009

Time: 10:27AM

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I agree with you Goat but let's go to the extreme. Three normal time subs plus four excessive goal celebrations thats 3min 30sec - ok say 4min. Now we have a goal with excessive celebration plus a sub, total max 5min - please don't tell me the 4min only starts after the goal celebration because i have just seen Arsenal score on 89.45 and the game restart on 90.26 the ref blew spot on the 3min of added time.
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22/09/2009 10:55:00

City city city... Please.... Stop making a fuss about the amount of added time. At the end of the day you should have been defending until the final whistle. United were the better team on the day. You guys have been excellent so far and I'm sure you'll have a great season, let's move on... please!
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22/09/2009 11:07:00

Yes, turkishdelight, let's sweep this incident under the carpet because it's inconvenient and ever so slightly embarrassing to the mighty red devils eh? We were cheated so why should we shut up about it?
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22/09/2009 11:09:00

Agree about defending to the end etc but if time is given for excessive celebrations then shouldn't the watch have been stopped after about 30 secs of celebration??!! Not the full length of it. PS, congratulations to hack Ian McGarry on TalkSport for showing off his maths skills to Bowen, he has great prowess round the calculator.
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22/09/2009 11:17:00

How come only 16 seconds of play was allowed after the United celebration too? There celebration went on longer than ours. Oh I forgot... United were winning then so game over. It doesn't matter that either team could of scored in this magical extra time.. it shouldn't of been played. If City had of scored you're right I wouldn't be moaning but you can bet your bottom teeth the rags and the pro rag media would of been all over it.
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22/09/2009 11:21:00

It's all very well saying let's move on in modern football speak. It's hight time the protection and favouritism afforded to the rags was stopped.
Johnny Baguette
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22/09/2009 11:23:00

manure were deemed to have scored 1 second away from the whistle, so even if the celebration lasted 10 minutes there was still only 1 second to play after the restart of the game, the ref played what 16?, we have to take this on the chin lads its harsh but thats life we aint the first team to get robbed at the swamp and we wont be the last either, i just feel that the pressure from fergie on the ref is not on and the fa should gag fergie altogether especially after all the hatred him and his chuckles have spouted over the last week,
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22/09/2009 11:36:00

i think FA should consider this match as a fact to avoid this kind of injustice to any club in future say even to arsenal will face this kind of situation in the coming years if fat ass stays alive..we are shouting to stop rags stealing games in extra time by manipulating things and by referees help.shame on shame,you won all the board room trophies by cheating Ha Ha ha Ha...that's why you were punished by a ordinary defense in the UEFA finals this year..all these because of stretford united ground's Karma..
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22/09/2009 13:27:00

i think we should just move on now because its making us look pathetic in the rest of the footballing world - my opinion of course ;0)
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22/09/2009 13:33:00

I'm with you bluemooner_mcfc. It's dragging on.
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22/09/2009 14:43:00

Understood, Blues, but the worst of this is that once the FA finish their tea and crumpets they'll almost assuredly go after their Bellamy and Adebayor unfinished business. The best thing that could have happened to us this week is to play another game quickly and get Sunday's disgrace out of our system. Fulham, already feeling the Europe game strain can expect a torrid night.
Johnny Baguette
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22/09/2009 15:10:00

It really makes not a jot, because it is always at the discretion of the ref concerned, and he could have kept going for 12 minutes - although I guess the FA would have (secretly) asked him why. If he is a Rag, or did it for betting reasons, he should be surmarily dismissed immediately, and the Tampons should be made to face the public to admit they should never have won, and make no other statements at all on the subject, ever. Of course that ain't gonna happen is it? After all Taggart reckons it should have been 7-0 to his side.
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22/09/2009 15:36:00

The good thing about it is and I have been told by loads of fans this week(not rags) that we were robbed. It really does not matter, what did count was the fact that we have arrived. Three times we came back and that is the mark of a good team. The only thing we did wrong after we scored the third goal was not to keep it and pass the time that way, we just kept hoofing back to the rags instead of keeping possession.
buzz lightyear
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22/09/2009 17:05:00

you were robbed - you'll get over it - but then again you only lost a point!
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22/09/2009 20:36:00

But If United are losing then the time gets doubled and if they are winning it gets halved - I think that this is the formula that the FA must use.
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26/09/2009 19:28:00


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