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How Many World Class Players Do City Have?

Wswilly3 sent us the following.

I was thinking the other day how wonderful it is now to have the luxury of being able to watch genuine world class players from both City and the opposition.

If you had said to me when I was standing on the terraces on December 19th 1998 at Bootham Crescent, York that the future for Manchester City was that we would become the richest club in the world, have a great new stadium and a team full of Internationals I would have thought you were mad. Yet this is where we are now and although we haven't yet won a trophy or exactly set the footballing world alight, we have undoubtedly progressed a million miles from those dark days of playing Wycombe, Lincoln and York as equals and losing to them all.

So, getting back to the world class players - it is a thoughtful exercise to consider who we individually believe might warrant that accolade amongst the current Manchester City first team. So what definition and qualities might relate to being classified as a genuine world class player?

I suppose for starters one would have to be a proven International player and also be of the standard to get into the majority of other Premiership teams as a first choice member. You would have to be consistent and a genuine match winner, from whatever position you played and it would be a positive indication if previous groups of supporters held you in high esteem as a 'cult' figure. So how many City players meet that kind of definition? Well all a matter of opinion but here goes with my views.

I would make a case for 'certainties' and one maybe. The following in my opinion would be:

1) Shay Given - a seasoned International player over many years with Eire and a 'cult' figure at his former club Newcastle. Literally from the first minute of his career with City he has been on top form and clearly showed himself to be a cut above Joe Hart, who himself has the potential to be a future 'great'. Also a great influence in the dressing room by all accounts and a real 'pro'. Would I prefer any other Premiership goalkeeper? The nearest is probably Reina at Liverpool but on balance Shay would be my choice and I think he would get between the sticks at the majority of premiership clubs.

2) Gareth Barry - now a seasoned International with England and virtually an automatic pick of Capello for a midfield berth, even ahead of very illustrious names. He can play in a number of positions, which sometimes has been a detriment to him at City but seems most comfortable with a 'box to box' midfield role. Was a 'cult' figure at Villa and I believe will inevitably have a key role for England at the World Cup and would walk into most Premiership teams. I see him as a mainstay for City for several years and a key player who has developed into World Class player in a quiet but definite manner.

3) Carlos Tevez - a long standing International with Argentina and a major influence and a 'cult' figure wherever he has played such as with West Ham and at United. Hard working and skilled with the ability to lead the line or play of a main striker. A proven goal scorer and a great asset for any team and would be snapped up by most Premiership teams if they had the opportunity. He has the world at his feet and the ability to become a true City legend.

4) Nigel de Jong - an experienced International with Holland and a key player for Hamburg before joining City. Given that a team play a system requiring an out and out holding midfield player, he has to be one of the world's best in this role along with Masherano at Liverpool and would be seen as a 'catch' by most Premiership teams.

5) Craig Bellamy - a legend with Wales and a wealth of experience with a variety of Premiership teams, where he has always made an impact. Has to be handled properly to get the best out of him but inevitably a fan's favourite wherever he has played and would get into most Premiership teams. A proven goal scorer with a high work rate who can perform at the highest level even with lesser able players around him.

The 'maybes' in my opinion would be:

1) Vincent Kompany - an experienced International with Belgium who can play as either a holding midfielder or as a central defender, where he is currently excelling. Given an extended run in this role he could well prove himself to be one of the best central defenders in the Premiership but not there yet.

As I said before it is all a matter of good natured opinion and that is what is so wonderful about football. I would appreciate hearing the views of fellow fans and in particular:

Do you agree with the above choices or do you think such as Wayne Bridge, Joleyn Lescott and Shaun Wright Phillips, all England Internationals should have been included?

Am I right not to have considered Micah Richards, Pablo Zabaleta, Robinho, Adebayor, Santa Cruz, Petrov Toure and Stevie Ireland?

Is having five players of true International class a real spring board for a title push next year given that Mancini can add to his team during the close season?

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Writer: Wswilly3  Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Saturday March 6 2010

Time: 2:47PM

Your Comments

Bellamy, Saint Bellamy - good but not world class!
merlin
you have tevez who is world class, hes work effect and goalscoring makes up for what e lacks technically, apart from that I'd say no1 else gets clos apart from an in form bellamy, but thats pushing it a bit.
liamyid
I reckon two, Given and Tevez.
Bluedub
Oh and Robinho if he gave a *****.
Bluedub
barry is definitely not world class.hasn't proved himself on the international stage, hasn't proved himself in europe. he is a top top PL player but not world class.
dwight schrute
Oh yeah and given, hes in the top ten keepers in the world. Oh yeah and robino, jus not when he wears the City shirt, or away from home, or whens its cold, or when he cant be bothered.....!!
liamyid
Everybodys definition of world class is different. I guess my definition of world class would be a player that is widely considered to be one of the top 10 players in the world in his position.

By that standard, Shay Given - probably just about world class. Gareth Barry- not even close. Carlos Tevez - again maybe just about world class on his best day. Nigel De Jong - suprisingly yes, but only by virtue of the fact that the purely destructive DM role is a dying breed. Bellamy - no. I'd say Robinho and Adebayor on their day have more of a claim to being world class than most of the players you mentioned.
tuscan3000
id say on form, the three best pl strikers are rooney, bellamy and tevez and if he keeps the run goin Pav. Thats the thing with 'world class' if your going on form it can change monthly but if you want the best of the best consistenly 'world class' is a very small club of you ronaldos, messi's, gerrards, torres, xavi and iniestas etc. I mean you wouldnt say Tevez was any were near world class last year would you?
liamyid
They say class is permanent and form temporary, so world class does imply some level of consistency. Whats difficult is how long you have to play well or badly to be included or excluded from the world class category. I think everyone can name 7 or 8 players in any position who are definately world class, after that it becomes very difficult. For example, Benzema, Dzeko, Aguero and Pato are all considered top young strikers but none of them have any long term pedigree behind them. Whereas Henry, Van Nistelrooy, Totti and Ronaldinho all have pedigree, but age makes people question their continued class. Are the youngsters potentially world class players in good form, with the older guys being world class players in poor form? Or have these older players simply fading out of the world class category to be replaced by the younger guys? Its difficult.
tuscan3000
Liamyid - I reckon you're doing Torres and Drogba a disservice there. Surely on form these two are amongst the best in the world, nevermind PL.
Bluedub
Torres has been injured but yes i did forget about drogba whos been awesome since ACN.
liamyid
Given and Tevez - some other top players but not on their level
HuddersfieldYiddo
tevez thats it folks
Bluemerang
As a harden blue i can honestly say city have no world class players. In my opinion it doesnt matter if we do or dont - we need a world class team. World class is term that is overly used and most of the time - wrongly used. Can anyone seriously look at citys squad and compare anyone to pele, maradona, platini or van basten? Unless city buy ronaldo, iniesta, rooney, eto, villa, torres, or messi, we wont have a world class player.
Super City Slicker
Just two in my opinion - Given and Tevez
Thaibluefan
Thanks for the comments guys which have made me think. Yep perhaps I was seeing things through too rosy glasses and instead of five world class players we only have two in Tevez and Given. One nice thing to report is that even though this post was open to fans of many teams, as well as City fans there was not one bit of abuse but just constructive views ..... thanks for that.
Wswilly3
I'd say in the truly world class bracket, Given, Kompany and Tevez. And for the shock factor, Lescott, Barry and Ireland can make it. They have the resources.
Johnny Baguette
Hopefully in the next few years everyone will be talking about Guidetti, Weiss, Boyata, Ball Zander and Helan!
fifthcolumnblue
Given, Kompany, De Jong and Tev
Once A Blue
De jong world class??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Super City Slicker
None at this time, but we have some in the making.
Buzz Lightyear
Given at a push and definatly Tevez but others mentioned are "Very good" not World class
DazzaTHFC
Dazza: Thanks for the input. I would be genuinely interested in which Spurs players would you rate as World class
Wswilly3
No City player is world class - not even Given - hes damn good, but not world class, and Tevez mmmm still undecided about him
niteworlok
 

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