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I Wish City Could Keep All Their Players Except...

Vital Manchester City regular, Wswilly3 sent us the following.

As others have pointed out the 25-player rule is not a problem to Manchester City FC and I would argue that it is an indication of the strength in depth we currently have. If we wished we would be able to keep all our players, with the exception of selling or loaning the following five:

Logan - Etuhu - Caceido - Jo - Santa Cruz...

...and allow Michael Johnson, just until Christmas to play in the reserves so he could gradually improve his fitness.

Among the 25 there would be nine over the age of 21 that are home grown and thus no trouble with that rule either.

So if we wished we could recruit Balotelli and still keep the likes of Richards, Onuoha, Ireland, Robinho and Bellamy. Specifically, our 25 could be:

Goalkeepers (3): Given - Hart - Taylor

Defenders (9): Lescott, Bridge, Richards Onuoha, Zabalata, Boateng, Toure, Kotarov, Kompany

Midfield (9): Wright Phillips, A. Johnson, Ireland, Barry, De Jong, Toure, Vieira, Robinho, Silva

Strikers (4): Bellamy, Tevez, Adebayor, Balotelli

These would be supported by a number of under-21's such as Weiss, Nimely, Boyota, Ibrahim and Vidal

So far so good, but I still think we have a major problem and it is the same one I have been 'banging on' about for the last year, and that is the mix of players that we have and the formation we can play. I am not appeased in this by the rotation argument for I do believe we have a problem in the centre of our midfield if we play 4-4-2.

Are we likely to play 4-4-2? Yes because if we play arguably out best player, Carlos Tevez he has to play in a 4-4-2, as he is wasted and misplaced as a lone striker.

Given we have, say Adebayor or Balotelli or Bellamy playing up front with Tevez, what then becomes of the midfield four? If we analyse the nine on the list - we have two out and out wingers in Adam Johnson and Shaun Wright Phillips, plus four defensive minded mid-fielders in de Jong, Barry, Vieira and Toure. That leaves three more attacking midfielders in Robinho, Silva and Ireland, but if they were to play in one of the two central midfield roles we would be terribly exposed to the counter attack and I don't see this happening - as was shown last season when Mancini took a safety first policy.

An alternative would be to play with less width and use the full backs more in an attacking role but as yet we haven't really adopted this style.

The situation is particularly exacerbated when we play De Jong and Tevez in the same side as this results in a huge gap in the middle of the park and Tevez has to drop further and further back, which is not his natural game. This is why I believe Ferguson was prepared to let Tevez go as he wanted to use him as an impact sub late on in games but understandably, Tevez himself was not mad keen on that role.

So my problem in a nutshell is that our teams shape. Based on the players we have and the realities of the Premiership should be 4-5-1 but the personnel we have and in particular Carlos Tevez, do not support that formation.

Do not get me wrong, I adore Tevez, and in fact he is my favourite player due to his skill, work rate, goals and sheer excitement, but to properly accommodate him I believe the only real option is to sacrifice width and say have a midfield four of say...

Toure - De Jong - Silva (or Robinho or Ireland) - Barry

Yep, its easy to dismiss all of the above by saying we will use rotation but that doesn't address the fundamental problem we had last year and have again this year - what is our natural shape given the players we have?

I re-iterate that it is 4-4-2, if we play Carlos Tevez and a holding midfielder and without sacrificing width we inevitably have to sacrifice our creative midfielder, which we did last year and is no real solution.

Any views would be appreciated, as I see this as our biggest dilemma in achieving what we all want.

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Date:Saturday July 31 2010
Time: 10:01PM


The likes of Weiss, Nimely, Boyota, Ibrahim and Vidal are gold dust. As for creativity, I believe we need it badly. If only Ireland could recover his form. I'd like to see someone "in the hole" behind two strikers. Could we try Silva there? I said we should have gone for Sneijder before the World Cup. What an asset that lad would have been. Difficult call, Mancio!
Johnny Baguette
31/07/2010 22:08:00
Excellent article Willy. A lot of food for thought. The alternative you mention, sacrificing width in midfield and using attacking full backs is for me the best way to go with the personnel we have. The signings of Kolarov and Boateng give us good attacking options on the flanks, as well as being very strong defensively.
31/07/2010 22:40:00
I'd describe your shape as 'Barryesque' fat back side, overhyped, overpriced and will fail on the big stage. Seeemples.
31/07/2010 22:45:00
The 25 man rule won't last long. All it will take is for an injury crisis to hit old toilet, then Taggart will start screaming to high heaven and hey presto! The ruling is dust.
31/07/2010 22:51:00
Big stage Mutters? Like the one at the Bridge last season?
31/07/2010 22:56:00
Ya Ya is NOT a defensive mid fielder it was only at Barca tnat he played there. If we had Iniesta Xavi and messi etc we would play Ya Ya as defensive mid.
31/07/2010 23:25:00
Spot on Jack. From the friendly against NY Red Bulls you could see the role he is likely to adopt, a proper midfield general that will pull the strings. I've no doubts we've signed a top top player in Yaya, looking forward to seeing him dominate the centre of the park for us this season.
31/07/2010 23:41:00
Bluedub - I'm pretty sure mutters meant that by the end of the season, much like the last season where Chelsea finished with the double, Cit£h will possibly have more Europey cup football. Like he said, seeemples! ;)
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