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Should Managers Take The Blame For Bad Tackles?

Nigel De Jong's tackle on Newcastle's Hatem Ben Arfa has got the football community talking. Should managers take the blame for bad tackles?

Fulham midfielder Danny Murphy sat in front of the press yesterday and said teams such as Stoke, Wolves and Blackburn go out of their way to stick the boot in. Is he correct?

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ESPN football commentators, Tommy Smyth and Shaka Hyslop discuss their take on the situation and then nearly come to blows themselves.








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Writer: Tudor Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Saturday October 9 2010

Time: 8:00AM

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Some teams play a more physical game because they haven't the skill of the top teams. The managers of these teams have generally got a lot less money to spend so can't match the big spenders. Gates are usually smaller and the only way these teams can compete is physically. At the same time to be successful teams need some solid hard men in their team so that their more skilful players aren't bulldozed aside game after game. Whether a manager is morally responsible or not though is something different. Brian Clough had a few hard tackling players in his teams but always tried to play football.If a player persistently gets booked or sent off then he is giving his manager concerns. Suspensions mount and suddenly the team is struggling for results. So in a way the manager is responsible to a degree because he can weed out the players that cost his team but a bad tackle is something that happens only rarely where a player is severely injured though it seems on the increase. I believe that the injuries that occur in the lower leg region could also be due to the lighter, weaker equipment players wear now. Boots are more like trainers and the shinguards are nowhere near as sturdy as in tears gone by. In a word I don't know. Yes maybe managers are responsible to a degree. But at the end of the day the players are the ones that go out to play and we all know a couple of players who enjoy the notoriety they have earned. My club has a player that continuously gets himself booked for rash tackles and I would simply drop him and explain why I have done so. but that is me and I have only ever managed a lower league Sunday team.
SFC Forever
The lighter footwear and shinpads, etc. may well be at the root of the problem, as are the blades (rather than round studs) on modern football boots. These modern boots give players much more stability, as they stick in the pitch much better, thus allowing skillful players to literally turn on a dime. Add this to grass pitches with an artificial weave (such as the one at CoMS) and torrential rain, and what do you get? A recipe for disaster. Ben Arfa had his foot planted firmly when DeJong's trailing leg caught him, and DeJong's momentum on the slippery surface turned a perfectly legitimate challenge into the leg-breaker that has everyone pontificating on about how Nigel is somehow a dirty player. It was an accident, and an unfortunate one, but as Antonio Valencia will know, even innocuous looking challenges can cause a broken leg. Perhaps people should be concentrating on looking into this issue ratherr than trying to crucify a particular player?
fifthcolumnblue
fifthcolumnblue whilst the tackle recently by De Jong can be def in ways his 2 for Holland speak volumes for the player he is.
Mix26
No excusing the high boot in the WC final - he only had eyes for the ball, but it was still worthy of a red card. Please note though, that Stuart Holden (the other player that you are referring to) got up and walked off the pitch.
fifthcolumnblue
Lol it was amazing he actually walked! And that was a friendly? Its easy to say as boxer I knocked out 40 guys, but a footballer breaking legs is not the record u want. It is interesting how it was almost exactly the same tackle on Arfa and Holden? Well if he had eyes on the ball then he is fecking blind!!! The guy is a talented footballer but his actions are of his own doing and not the manager etc. He deserves to be banned and more importantly he needs to learn his lesson very soon
Mix26
The referee didnt award a foul, because it wasnt one. It's his job to send people off and ban them if he deems it neccessary to do so, not yours. If Ben Arfa hadnt been injured then no-one would even take another look at the tackle because there was nothing wrong with it. Accidents happen in contact sport.
eighthsin
There was an interesting debate on The Independent last week - and I now firmly believe that the combination of the weave in the turf and the increased surface area of the blades greatly increases the resistance and doesn't allow the boot to move in certain tackles from certain angles. And it doesn't need to be a dirty tackle to cause injury. There should be an independent study into it as if the injuries we have sen early this year are a new pattern then its a worry for clubs.
DJDD
Yes managers should take the blame for bad tackles, this is because some managers delibertly set there teams up to play like this, for example i dont like joey barton for newcastle but when newcastle played wolves earlier in the season, wolves players (henry the most) was just trying their best to take him out and they were doing this throughout the 90mins, surely the manager set them up this way to try and get a reaction out of Barton
big ash
 

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