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Distasteful Chanting

One of the key issues omitted from last night's Ped Report was the fact that a number of those City fans occupying the Darwen End persist in singing songs which refer to Manchester United or it's fans as 'Munichs'.

A number of fellow Blues have actually come onto sites and blogs defending this as a collective means of describing United fans, but to me it goes deeper than that.

For many years as we know City have treaded in the slipstream of United's charge for trophies and titles. This has caused resentment amongst us and the 'Munich' analogy was born out of that as a means of getting at United fans. I'm shamed to say I have used that term myself, but only selectively against one single individual whose actions fit the archetypal definition of the word in the eyes of many City fans.

I was barely two years old when the disaster happened. My family who are all City fans stood at the junction of Cornishway and Shadow Moss Road in Wythenshawe when the coffins came home, heads bowed as a mark of respect. My old grandmother was in tears. I was in my pram not knowing much about it.

Over the years and particularly in recent times we have seen an escalation in the number of songs chanted at Maine Road and now Eastlands using the term. Terry Cooke wasn't one any more, Carlos Tevez is a Blue and hates them. Ryan Giggs is derided in another one and now Yaya Toure has put the ball into their net.

In some ways it is a sad indictment that they have at times sought to gain financially out of this and indeed impose memories of it on the footballing world year after year. There is little doubt that it has been the fulcrom for their perceived worldwide appeal.

We are moving into a new era with City right now and it might be said that our time either has arrived or is definitely in the process.

We beat them at Wembley, have reached the FA Cup final for the first time in thirty years and are on the brink of qualification for the Champions League with the possibility of finishing third in the table.

Let us enjoy all of that for what it is. Let us enjoy it for our football club and for ourselves as supporters of that football club.

We will have many opportunities to denigrate United fans over the next few years, I do not feel that we have to continually dredge up their most poignant misfortune. We have a whole generation of younger fans now who join in with this stuff but probably don't understand the history.

We are going to be better than them on the pitch. We already consider ourselves to better than them off the pitch. So let's prove it. It's time to call time on that kind of chanting.

And if there are some of you who disagree or don't want to grow with the Club, please remember one of City's greatest ever footballers, goalkeeper Frank Swift died on that plane. Lest we forget....

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Writer: Tranmere Loyal Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Tuesday April 26 2011

Time: 1:49PM

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I'm 67 and have nothing but contempt for City fans who use this term. It certainly was not used in the 50's 60's or 70's when I used to go to EVERY match. The stupid thing about the chants is that it just gives United and their fornicating media supporters, the chance to put our great club down in the eyes of the world.
Absolutely right jackblue and as we move onwards and upwards I want to see City remembered for what we do on the field and how our fans behave off it and if they're talking in the corridors then I for one applaud that.
I wrote an article on this website just a few short weeks ago, asking fans to stop using the term, as Jackblue says, because of their actions a great result against the dark side and blackburn has been overshadowed because of the media wanting to highlight it- which i am glad about it, it's moved the club to address the issue. I have emailed the club at asking them to take action, if we all do that then we can start a movement for good.
This word does nothing but play into Uniteds hands, giving them the moral highground and the chance for more media pity. United fans showed exactly what they are all about after the semifinal loss, indescriminate beating of pensioners, women and children - yet we have now sunk even lower thanks to a minority of caveman supporters. There is no need for using that word, it is only galvanising the rags and rag infested media. Stop it.
As if the rags and their brown nosers in the media needed another excuse to put the boot into Manchester City eh? The chants are disgraceful, and I really hoped the 50th anniversary derby at old toilet would have buried the chants for good, but alas not. It's typical that the "outraged" media and yoonited fans are getting their knickers in a twist over the issue a couple of days after yet MORE publicity for the disaster in the form of a TV movie, but that does not excuse the fact that the morons who perpetuate this kind of hatred need shipping out of our club for good.
It's disappointing that we have fans who not only chant these things but try to justify it by saying that their fans have done worse. There is never an excuse to glorify or gloat about a group of individuals who lost their lives in a plane crash. I don't care what uniform they were, or what group of people they played in front of, or if they beat us 100 times in a row. Football is just football. These chants make us no better than anyone else, and we are desperately trying to show we deserve all the success we will soon have. Let's not muck it up now.
Fifth is spot on. It's given the anti City brigade who have become more and more demoralised a new City destabiliser to cling to. Cheers to the bellends last night.
Johnny Baguette
I've got a massive amount of respect for your fan base. Though we disagree on most things, which I feel is solely based on the fact that i'm red and your blue, I have great admiration for your fanbase and am envious of it. I see the gulf of difference and can't help but feel appaled and at times disgusted to be considered in the same bracket as some of our 'fans' (you know, the glory hunting, football factory enthusiasts).
Section 4a of the Public Order Act (Intentional harassment, alarm or distress) states...

(1)A person is guilty of an offence if, with intent to cause a person harassment, alarm or distress, he—

(a) uses threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour, or disorderly behaviour, or

(b) displays any writing, sign or other visible representation which is threatening, abusive or insulting,

thereby causing that or another person harassment, alarm or distress.

A person guilty of an offence under this section is liable on summary conviction to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 6 months or a fine.

If anyone is caught chanting which causes others to feel the above then the police can and do arrest. For example Strathclyde police deal with this sort of thing especially at the Old Firm games.

Please fellow Blues, we don't want to hear this sort of chant.
Yeah, I'm in agreement. Used to say these things as a teenager but found myself getting more and more uncomfortable with it even at that age. God knows why some 'grown men' chant it. Wouldn't like to try to justify it to my sons.
Don't like it and never have, it just brings us down to their level and City fans are above that. A lot of lives were lost in that tragedy and we should respect that, just like we did when both Clubs met on the aniversary, when speculation was rife that City fans would disrupt the ceremony. So a message to those who still chant about Munichs, either grow up or go and support someone else.
Buzz Lightyear

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