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Waving The Imaginary Card Must Stop

Waving The Imaginary Card Must Stop

Roberto Mancini has every right to speak to the match officials when he thinks they have made a mistake but to wave imaginary cards when he thinks an opposition player deserves a red or yellow must stop.

The Italian said sorry when he waved the invisible card following Glen Johnson's two-footed challenge on Lescott last week but when Roberto repeated the incident at Wigan last night I have to say, I was fuming.

By all accounts it's acceptable to act in this manner over on the continent but it's regarded as ungentle-manly conduct on these shores. Please Bobby, can you stop.

Other comments

Skoorb - 'I love Mancini to bits - for his determination; for the way he has got the players to play football; for the success that he has brought and I would like little else than for him to remain as manager of the club for many years to come. I appreciate that the pressure is building as we turn towards the finishing line, that we have suffered some defeats, are missing key players through injury or other absence and have been on the end of some rough and inconsistent decisions from officials recently...'

'But am I alone in being frustrated at the image of him being highlighted standing at the side of the pitch making the imaginary card waving gesture?'

'Having done so after the penalty incident in the league game vs the dippers he immediately apologised and he went up in my estimation for doing so. I can only imagine his frustration at what to him, once again, seemed to be the wrong decision last night - I was frustrated and my job doesn't depend on what happens on the pitch.'

'I know he is passionate and lives the game as it is played but I fear he's likely only to continue to draw more attention onto himself and increase the pressure. The media are like school yard bullies. They seek or identify weaknesses, any little chinks in the armour and I have already heard this reaction being described as an indication that he's starting to 'crack'. We cannot afford to give our competitors any extra ammunition to fire at us & I fully expect Fergie to pick up on this when prompted by a 'seeded' question from on of his pet journalists...'


Many of you have commented on this very subject via the Gesture thread. Click here to read what fellow Blues have said.



Click here to join in the debate on the club forum.

Writer:danielqpr
Date:Tuesday January 17 2012
Time: 11:08AM

Comments

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What's the difference between making a card waving gesture and screaming in a fourth official or linesman's face with your arms outstretched? What about standing on the sideline and making a gesture towards your watch when in injury time?
Bluedub
17/01/2012 11:15:00
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I take your points on board Bluedub - Fergie's gestures certainly spring to mind.
Tudor
17/01/2012 11:17:00
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Don't get me wrong T, I don't like seeing this from any manager but why is everyone coming down so heavy on Mancini for this when we see similar from PL managers week in week out? Fair enough, we don't see card waving gestures but like I've said we see other types of gestures trying to influence officials.
Bluedub
17/01/2012 11:22:00
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British sense of "fair play" goes like this......You can say what you want to the referee, but don't mime it.
Spooks
17/01/2012 11:28:00
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BlueDub - I have never seen a manager wave an imaginary card from the sidelines before. I felt his actions last night contradicted what he said about Wayne Rooney the previous week. I must say, Mancini is losing a lot of respect from Media, fans, managers and players alike. This is unwanted media attention to the club. Just because they say it's normal on the continent doesn't mean it's acceptable over here. Suarez ban in an example of this.
Batigol
17/01/2012 11:45:00
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and their is a huge difference with pointing at a watch about injury time and waving a card to the officials, come on now Bluedub
Batigol
17/01/2012 11:46:00
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Is there? Both are gestures attempting to influence an official. Mancini said Shrek influenced the ref, he was right, he did, no contradiction. Is it acceptable Batigol for managers to scream for frees, penalties, throw ins, corners? Is it acceptable to wave their hands around in disgust when they don't get their decision? Is it acceptable to leap off the bench in an aggressive manner to remonstrate with officials? Do you work for the Daily Fail?
Bluedub
17/01/2012 11:54:00
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I've read the responses to my post with interest and I think they're have been many valid points made particularly about cultural differences and other 'tactics' employed by Fergie in particular. The watch pointing is a classic. I actually don't think Mancini is trying to influence refs either over the incident which sparks him to react or in the future. I just think he is so incensed at what he sees as double standards & he can't understand what they are thinking. I just think that, just as Kompany left himself open to a card against the rags by the nature of his technique, Mancini is likewise attracting the wrong kind of attention and that is not what he or the club need. It just gives the media another stick to beat us with, the cameras will continue to focus on the bench when there is any contentious decision and raise a charge of hypocrisy. Whether that is accurate or not it sticks in the minds of other people. I think Mancini has done marvellously well in learning how to manage the media and become very aware of their verbal 'boobytraps'. I just think that this is another one and he needs to learn just as quickly or they will keep banging on about it.
Skoorb
17/01/2012 12:05:00
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This is just a distraction from the real issue, which is pizz poor refereeing.
fifthcolumnblue
17/01/2012 12:07:00
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For the nation that "won the war", we're certainly easily offended by these "johnny foreigners". It's not Mancini's job to be universally liked...leave that to Ant and Dec...it's Mancini's job to highlight injustice and distract media attention from an average City performance. Only this.
Spooks
17/01/2012 12:30:00
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