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Munich: It's started already.

City have revealed that they will wear a commemorative shirt in respect of the 50th anniversary of the Munich Air Disaaster.


Now reading comments on other sites, blue and red, it seems as if City have put themselves in a damned if you do damned if you don't type of spot.

The ability of the club to shoot itself in the foot, or so it seems, is still part of the ongoing farce that is 'typical City'.

Forgetting for a moment the crass planning of the football authorities for scheduling such a fixture on an emotive week for some yoonited supporters; why oh why have City taken it upon themselves to respond to yoonited's decision to wear a different kit to commemorate the occasion?

Criticism has rightly come from all quarters, with issues being raised that range from hypocrisy on City's part to mutual glorification of the disaster.

I wish that if City wished to make a gesture it would be the simple wearing of black arm bands, as they do already when showing respect for any club that is showing respect for the dead in a fixture involving us.

The Old Trafford derby is already descending into the type of farce most blues predicted when the fixtures came out. Whatever City as a club, or their supporters do, they will receive phenomanal levels of criticism.

There are undoubtedly elements inside Old Trafford who are secretly relishing the scheduling of this fixture. It will allow them to play victim again and use the moronic chants of a few to paint their labels on the vast majority of City supporters.

The best suggestion I have seen to date is for the 3000 or so blues officially present to stay in the bar and raise a glass in respect. Let yoonited have their wake but don't let them goad us with aeroplanne gestures and chants about Heysel, Hillsbrough and Istanbul.

As for the club; forget commemorative shirts, it'll simply be used against us. Let the players wear black armbands and respect the minutes silence. There is more to be gained in being simply respectful rather than joining any celebration of death.

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Writer: Andy Leggott Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Wednesday December 12 2007

Time: 7:37PM

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Spot on, Andy. We also need our squad fully focused on the job in hand. The shirt decision is extremely uncomfortable.
Johnny Baguette
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12/12/2007 21:13:00

What is there in the club's gesture to suggest a "celebration of death"?
Craig Cain
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12/12/2007 21:56:00

indeed, im deeply uncomfortable with this. i cant stand it when they whinge about munich, sycophantic reds will do any thing to get a bit more tv time. i suggest we just wear the number 23 and recognise a death that it important to us. manyoo fans are worse than them all when it comes to offensive chants.
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13/12/2007 11:31:00

My concern fellas is that vital points will be at stake that day and that fact could be swamped in rag compassion fatigue. Anyway, the fixture should have been moved at the outset.
Johnny Baguette
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13/12/2007 11:39:00

Tommy - I'm deeply uncomfortable about you pal. Anyone brought up in a mancunian family will know and understand the trauma sufferred in the city at that time. It was a tragedy for the whole city. This was also the generation that turned out at Maine Road every week to watch both sides. Many blues would have watched and supported these lads also.
Craig Cain
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13/12/2007 11:46:00

JB - You and I get along right? Really don't appreciate the phrase 'rag compassion fatigue' however.
Craig Cain
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13/12/2007 11:47:00

Well said CC anyone around at the time will know it affected EVERYONE no matter who they supported.
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13/12/2007 12:18:00

We're almost always in tune, CC. Totally respect, appreciate and understand yours and alphie's opinions. I think what I'm struggling to convey here post night shift is that the whole story has developed into only being a United tragedy as opposed to anyone else in our city's. The vast majority of the onlooking world will view this as an exclusively Manchester United day of remembrance, not Manchester City's which is awful considering the facts and what Blues like my old man educated me into understanding. I'd like to see Manchester United's media people make a statement underlining the impact of Munich on both clubs and the city of Manchester. Hopefully that will go some way to allaying the fears that our nutter element will end up making City fans look very bad on the day. Hope this clarifies things.
Johnny Baguette
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13/12/2007 12:33:00

Yes Alph, glad of your support.
Craig Cain
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13/12/2007 12:34:00

JB: I agree, I hope it is depicted as city-wide. I wasn't aware that Utd were defining it as anything else - please advise. It is my view that this partizan stuff is often perpetuated by people from outside the city.
Craig Cain
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13/12/2007 12:40:00

CC: United, as far as I am aware, are certainly not defining Munich as being exclusively a United tragedy. The way I see it from the continent, United are absolutely gargantuan across the world and Munich is perceived as only affecting their club by the majority of their legions of international supporters. The world's media tend to reflect that. Were United to make the statement I suggested then a better worldwide understanding might be achieved.
Johnny Baguette
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13/12/2007 12:50:00

Well lets organize and lobby the club to do this (As VitalCity) Discuss with your fellow editors? I'm sure there will be no opposition from our members - save the odd scroat.
Craig Cain
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13/12/2007 12:56:00

A sound initiative, CC. I have found it unbelievably frustrating down the years that whenever Munich came up in the media, 90 odd percent of the time, the full story hardly ever got told.
Johnny Baguette
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13/12/2007 13:01:00

I think that is a very good idea to wear shirts as a mark of respect it shows a glimour of hope in fair play is actually working in football
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13/12/2007 13:02:00

JB: Go for it.
Craig Cain
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13/12/2007 13:12:00

Agree with all your comments JB and CC. The one thing that people overlook in all this, is that City and football lost one of the all time greats in the tragedy namely Frank Swift who I was very privilged to see in my very early years as a City fan.
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13/12/2007 13:56:00

Aye Alf, it's time to tell the whole story. On Frank Swift, my old man speaks fondly of him and reports that he was often seen stood at the gate of his house having a fag (somewhere in Fallowfield)
Craig Cain
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13/12/2007 14:14:00

That was the good old days when the players had a fag and a slice of lemon at half time.
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13/12/2007 15:41:00

Inconceivable these days of course. Used to go in the pubs before the game with the fans and travel on public transport.
Craig Cain
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13/12/2007 15:46:00

CC .... iI think the 'celebration of death' refers to the glorification of the disaster that has happened since certain marketing men at OT decided to cash in on its significance. Like myself you will remember the lack of memorium back in the Edwards era when united could be bought for 10 million. The faux grief by the arm waving idiots since munich became high profile that is seeking nothing more than a 'munich song' in response is just one example of what happens when a disaster is used as a marketing tool. Sadly we have more than enough idiots willing to respond and sully everyones name. I am all for United marking 50 years since the disaster but why continue with a high profile 41,42 .... 47,48,49 etc when 2 through 24 were given little prominance?
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13/12/2007 20:37:00

Yes Ronin - I recall the club effectively turning its back on hard-up widows and their long lobbying of the club. I do endorse Gill's comments to the press "The Munich air crash was not just about Manchester United," chief executive David Gill said late Thursday. "It devastated the lives of the 23 families of those who died, as well as those who never played again, and united a city in grief. Those who are able to remember it say it was Manchester's 'Kennedy moment.' Everyone knows where they were when the terrible news came through." My greatest fear is that Manchester City FC and the reputation of our city could be brutally undermined before the world by the words of one sh'thead. Further, that the event then breathes new life and justification into yet another generation of morons and haters on both sides. This isn't Glasgow - our clubs do not represent different religious, cultural or political traditions and communities divided by centuries of hatred.
Craig Cain
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13/12/2007 23:32:00

you're in a no win situation lads!
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15/12/2007 20:43:00

stuff em.. why should everyone have to s*dding bow down to them fckers!!
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