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FFP - the 'zombie' created by UEFA that refuses to die
04 September 2017 12:21 Post ID: #605093 - in reply to #605085
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BamaEngineer - 4/9/2017 00:49

The untouchables have been disturbed, and now they have to make everyone pay for daring to knock them off their perch. They sound like whiny little girls.

They are little girls, but they will kick and scream and try to force UEFA to take some action to protect the so called established teams.
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04 September 2017 12:37 Post ID: #605094 - in reply to #605057
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Bluedub - 2/9/2017 09:03

According to a Spanish radio station LFP ( La Liga) have made a complaint to UEFA that we've been flouting FFP.

They tagged us into their complaints about PSG it seems, well all them Arabs are the same.


They said nowt when the top two La Liga teams bought Neymar for 60+ mil and Suarez for 75mil and Ronaldo / Bale for 80+ million. Also how much did Barca offer for Curtaino in this window for an above average winger. But now it's unfair, hypocrites the lot of them.
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04 September 2017 12:38 Post ID: #605095 - in reply to #603248
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Not unexpected. I suspect that the Catalans are in league with some other heavyweights in their
continuing purge against City.

Slightly off the topic :

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/10911/france-qatar

What we already know for sure is the following:

1.A state sponsor of terrorism, Qatar, was allowed to buy France's leading soccer team, Paris-Saint-Germain, with the help of then-president Nicolas Sarkozy. The former owner of the PSG was a private fund controlled in Europe by one of Sarkozy's close friends. There would have been no deal without the direct consent of Sarkozy -- that is the way France functions.


2.A state sponsor of terrorism, Qatar, was not only allowed, but actively courted, by French officials to invest in some of France's largest companies, including defense companies, such as Veolia, as well as the Airbus parent company, European Aeronautic Defence and Space Company (EADS); the energy group EDF; the construction firm, Vinci; and the media and defense group Lagardère.


3.A state sponsor of terrorism, Qatar, was actively supported in its 2022 bid for the World Cup by the government of France and Nicolas Sarkozy, who declared after the FIFA vote in 2010: "Sport does not belong to a few countries. It belongs to the world... I don't understand those who say that events should always be held in the same countries and the same continents."


4.There is a significant part of the French political class that seems to consider the Embassy of Qatar in Paris some sort of automatic teller machine (ATM), as has been showed by renowned journalists Christian Chesnot and Georges Malbrunot in their book, Nos très chers émirs (Our Very Dear Emirs) and deplored by the new ambassador of Qatar in France, Meshaal al-Thani.


5.Since 2008, a state sponsor of terrorism, Qatar, has benefited from a huge tax break in France: the exemption of profits on property sales. In France, profits on property sales are not only taxed at 19%, they are subject to a further CSG/CRDS and social tax (15.5%), resulting in a combined total minimum tax rate of 34.5%. The rule is the same for everyone, whether a person or a corporation. Everyone, that is, but the State of Qatar, when the administration of Nicolas Sarkozy decided to exempt it from the tax. As a result, Qatar's royal family and sovereign fund have since built up a huge portfolio of assets in France, one that dwarfs the portfolio of a state such as Saudi Arabia. Qatar's portfolio ranges from a Champs-Élysées mall to the Lido Cabaret. "Our deficit has destroyed our freedom," said Nathalie Goulet, a centrist senator from Lower Normandy, in 2013. "The Qataris are here to buy, while we are selling our family jewels." Which they did. [1]


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04 September 2017 14:29 Post ID: #605096 - in reply to #605095
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UEFA saying we are NOT being investigated.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41146009

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04 September 2017 14:53 Post ID: #605098 - in reply to #603248
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European governing body Uefa has rejected calls from Spanish league chiefs to investigate Manchester City for possible breaches of its financial fair play (FFP) regulations.

http://www.cityam.com/271331/manchester-city-ffp-row-uefa-throw-out...
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04 September 2017 14:54 Post ID: #605099 - in reply to #603248
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Arsene Wenger now wants to scrap financial fair play

http://www.cityam.com/271264/arsenal-manager-arsene-wenger-calls-fi...
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04 September 2017 15:49 Post ID: #605100 - in reply to #603248
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Oh the irony

Arsenal were one of a group of PL clubs including the rags, Liverpool and Spurs that signed a letter/agreement several years back pushing for FFP to be implemented strictly by the PL.

Here it is. 2013.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2262027/Mancheste...

How the worm has turned
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04 September 2017 16:02 Post ID: #605101 - in reply to #603248
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Oh and good to know that UEFA have turned away from the La Liga steaming pile of they generated.

Having said that once again the BBC manages to put a slant into their graphic. We may have spent more (just) than PSG but if you look at it taking account of income from sales of players our net outlay places us fourth. Behind PSG, AC Milan........and the rags. Funny that they aren't mentioned.

2017/18 transfer income and expenditure

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/statistik/einnahmenausgaben
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04 September 2017 18:05 Post ID: #605103 - in reply to #605100
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Oh the irony

Arsenal were one of a group of PL clubs including the rags, Liverpool and Spurs that signed a letter/agreement several years back pushing for FFP to be implemented strictly by the PL.

Here it is. 2013.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2262027/Mancheste...

How the worm has turned

To be fair to the twat, he hasn't actually changed his view on FFP - he just thinks it's been proved to be pointless as it doesn't do what he wants/expected.

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04 September 2017 18:47 Post ID: #605106 - in reply to #603248
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That's because Arsenal wanted to stop City getting into the top four, where it was comfort and cosy for the usual suspects, isn't the premier more exciting now that City and others have broke the mould?
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05 September 2017 10:02 Post ID: #605132 - in reply to #605106
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Buzz Lightyear - 4/9/2017 18:47

That's because Arsenal wanted to stop City getting into the top four, where it was comfort and cosy for the usual suspects, isn't the premier more exciting now that City and others have broke the mould?

Absolutely, much more exciting now that the usual suspects have to perform for that top 4 spot.
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05 September 2017 11:08 Post ID: #605135 - in reply to #603248
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Erm...we are now one of the 'usual suspects' - be careful what you wish for?

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05 September 2017 13:36 Post ID: #605139 - in reply to #603248
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05 September 2017 14:35 Post ID: #605143 - in reply to #603248
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That is a very sensible article. Sadly it is only likely to be read by City fans who at least will be better equipped to tell whinny fans of other clubs to STFU when they start spouting the usual rubbish.

It really is the kettle calling the pot plus with an added touch of breathtaking hypocrisy
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05 September 2017 14:53 Post ID: #605144 - in reply to #603248
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I was having a look through Barca's transfer history in light of these 'distorting the market' claims and noticed that Dani Alves was bought by Barca for the same price that we paid for Robinho at the time.

Given the outcry about how much we spent on Kyle Walker, 'that much for a fullback??!!' etc. I couldn't help but smile.

I'm looking forward to meeting my rag mate today, as I do everyday on my commute home from work. He was appalled that anyone would spend that much on a fullback when we signed Walker.
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05 September 2017 16:14 Post ID: #605146 - in reply to #603248
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Here you go for when he starts - Luke Shaw cost the rags £33.75m in 2014. That is three years ago and we are accused of 'distorting the market'.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/luke-shaw/transfers/spieler/183288

Kyle Walker's ACTUAL fee was £45.9m

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/kyle-walker/transfers/spieler/95424

Oh, oh, oh......and don't forget of course the £41m the rags shelled out for Rio Ferdinand in 2002/03. Fifteen years ago!

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/rio-ferdinand/transfers/spieler/3235
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05 September 2017 16:19 Post ID: #605147 - in reply to #603248
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Oh and one for the La Liga muppets.....

In the evolution of historic transfer fee records guess which league occupies 5 out of the top 10 places and 8 times in the top 20? (& this list doesn't include the fee paid for Suarez because that the time in 2014/15, it wasn't a record)

Yes, you've guessed it.

La Liga.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/statistik/transferrekordehistorie

This makes their recent bleating reek of even greater hypocrisy.
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