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Bournemouth 1 - Manchester City 2 - Stats Link & Post Match Reax/ Discussion Thread
26 August 2017 20:25 Post ID: #604850 - in reply to #604849
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Skoorb - 26/8/2017 08:18

Oh and as for this from Daniels....

Charlie Daniels tells BBC Sport:

"There was only five minutes of added on time so ask the referee why we played seven"

Because your player was being treated for an injury (perhaps you should have asked him why he decided to take a breather or why Begovic started wasting time in the first half)

Cracking goal he scored though


He sounds like a poor sport. No class.
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26 August 2017 20:34 Post ID: #604852 - in reply to #604849
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Skoorb - 26/8/2017 20:18

Oh and as for this from Daniels....

Charlie Daniels tells BBC Sport:

"There was only five minutes of added on time so ask the referee why we played seven"

Because your player was being treated for an injury (perhaps you should have asked him why he decided to take a breather or why Begovic started wasting time in the first half)

Cracking goal he scored though


There was the row with Guardiola and Howe too which took a minute to sort out meaning Probert didn't hold up the added 5 minutes until 91 minutes had elapsed.
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26 August 2017 21:03 Post ID: #604853 - in reply to #604816
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That's right. I forgot about that.

I think Howe got his knickers in a twist after City returned the ball to them after a stoppage for injury but their player was just watching the ball and not playing it so I think Sterling closed him down. Howe must have been moaning about it and Pep was saying that you just don't get to wind the clock down - the ball was returned to restart play not to waste time.

No sympathy. Begovic was time wasting with his first goal kick and should have been booked. I would have booked Arter inside the first fifteen seconds for his blatant pull back on Silva. It is absolutely rubbish that such obvious unsporting conduct is enabled by the officials.
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27 August 2017 07:57 Post ID: #604872 - in reply to #604816
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Much has been made by Eddie Howe, Daniels and Alan Shearer on MotD about Dean getting it wrong when he awarded a free kick to City in the build up to the winning goal - this is when Otamendi is tackled in the centre circle by Mousset.

What they all fail to mention is that immediately before this as the ball is cleared from the City area after Josh King's shot, Sterling is taken out by a dangerous tackle from Arter. Sterling is running with the ball and has just realeased it to KDB when Arter flies in with his right leg at knee height. It was a red card challenge imo but Dean waved play on and then books Arter as City are taking the free kick. It was a foul by Mousset who swipes through with his left leg and trips Otamendi so I fails to see which part of tripping an opponent is not a foul. Maybe the same people who think Ake didn't deliberately obstruct Jesus in the first half.
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27 August 2017 08:09 Post ID: #604874 - in reply to #604816
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Not sure if that was a foul or not, hard to tell from replays my first reaction was we got away with one, I was shocked that Dean gave it. Mendy had also been fouled by King just moments before when he dwelled on the ball, so I've little sympathy.

No mention of Ake getting away with red on MOTD or Cook's dangerous unpunished challenges on Jesus either.
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27 August 2017 08:14 Post ID: #604876 - in reply to #604816
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I found this game very frustrating to watch and could not understand our selection and the reasons why. Sterling will have time to think about this weird sending off and I hope he learns from it. In the end we did deserve to win, but we could have easily have lost and then all hell would have broken loose in the medja, so happy that we won, but the football was weird.
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27 August 2017 08:17 Post ID: #604877 - in reply to #604816
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No they failed to mention either of those two challenges.

Oh and btw I do not subscribe to the theory that Sterling's goal was lucky. Many comments about him getting a "massive slice of luck" and "it takes a big deflection off Surman". Not in my book. I don't think it gets a deflection off anyone but is scooped up by Sterling and it goes in directly from his contact.

Fair play to the lad - I had been saying he should have been replaced by Sane much earlier but he kept plugging away and was much more effective when moved to the right hand side.
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27 August 2017 11:24 Post ID: #604886 - in reply to #604876
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johnkelv - 27/8/2017 08:14

I found this game very frustrating to watch and could not understand our selection and the reasons why. Sterling will have time to think about this weird sending off and I hope he learns from it. In the end we did deserve to win, but we could have easily have lost and then all hell would have broken loose in the medja, so happy that we won, but the football was weird.

Learn from it? What does he need to learn from it? The ref made a blatant error of judgement in giving him a second yellow.
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27 August 2017 12:35 Post ID: #604887 - in reply to #604886
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I think he should learn, knowing Dean, being known for his unorthodox approaches Raheem should have restrained himself, but emotion got the better of him and Dean the chance to shine.
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27 August 2017 15:36 Post ID: #604892 - in reply to #604816
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True, polite handshakes all round, then trot back to your own half. That's what we all want to see
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27 August 2017 21:13 Post ID: #604902 - in reply to #604816
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David Moyes on Goals on Sunday....

Cook's challenge on Jesus by the corner flag was fine & not "excessive force" or "endangering an opponent" and he would have no problem if it had been committed on one of his players if he were still managing

Cook's challenge with his boot by Jesus's ear was fine

He was fine with Sterling being booked for the celebration as he left the pitch and the safety of the supporters was important. He had no problem however when shown footage of Ross Barkley scoring for Everton at the same ground, running over to the fans who join him on the pitch in a mass heap along with other players as many fans leap about in celebration on the pitch nearby. The steward are doing nothing to stop them. Barkley was not booked.

No bias there then David & so much for consistency by officials

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27 August 2017 21:51 Post ID: #604903 - in reply to #604816
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The safety of the supporters eh? The only thing that compromised their safety was the actions of the stewards.
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28 August 2017 07:26 Post ID: #604904 - in reply to #604903
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As Shearer said on BBC, why only book Sterling?
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28 August 2017 07:27 Post ID: #604905 - in reply to #604887
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Buzz Lightyear - 27/8/2017 12:35

I think he should learn, knowing Dean, being known for his unorthodox approaches Raheem should have restrained himself, but emotion got the better of him and Dean the chance to shine.

If Dean was a good ref he should have booked more of our players, the rule is pretty stupid for celebrating a goal, particularly taking off the shirt.
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28 August 2017 12:31 Post ID: #604910 - in reply to #604816
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GRAHAM POLL: STERLING ONLY HAS HIMSELF TO BLAME FOR RED
Raheem Sterling simply had to be dismissed. He only has himself to blame.
Referees brief Premier League captains and a member of each management team before every game about the need for players to remain on the playing surface in their goalscoring celebrations.
Mike Dean followed that protocol and told Vincent Kompany and a member of the City staff exactly that in his pre-match briefing.
Therefore, nobody should be surprised, appalled or dismayed when the referee merely upholds the law and cautions a player for doing so.
Manchester City manager Pep Guardiola said after the game he wanted to be told what offence Sterling had committed. Well, he should take the teamsheet in and listen to the pre-match briefing then.
After scoring City’s last-gasp winner, Sterling was understandably excited and wanted to celebrate. However, when Chris Sutton in these pages and Alan Shearer on Match of The Day claim that footballers cannot control their emotions, they should consider how the well-rehearsed and choreographed dance moves are enacted by a lot of players. They can control themselves — and they must.
Those accusing Dean of being a pedant should look at the incident and note the fans being crushed, along with stewards and police.
Those supporters who entered the field of play will, in all likelihood, get banning orders for at least the rest of the season, and criminal records.


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28 August 2017 12:42 Post ID: #604911 - in reply to #604816
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I always thought Poll was full of sh*t when he was a referee. He has only confirmed my belief.

To equate the choreographed celebrations that we have seen to what happens when you score the winning goal in a massivley tense encounter is facile and somewhat incredulous. What a knob.
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28 August 2017 13:06 Post ID: #604912 - in reply to #604816
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Why is it protocol is followed in one instance and not another?

For example dissent, why are players permitted to swear at officials, is there not protocol there to discipline them?

The stewards fecked up here and could've caused serious injury with their actions putting a barrier between fans and players for what would be 5-10 seconds of euphoria and then fizzle out with no drama.

Martin Samuel has gone down in my estimation today for his take on Sterling celebrating.
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