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City 5 Liverpool 0 - Match Stats Link & Post Match Reax and Discussion Thread
09 September 2017 15:18 Post ID: #605448 - in reply to #605426
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Nope. Totally genuine.

What planet are they on?

Just apply the following test - change the positions and imagine that was Agüero on Mignolet. I do not think they would have the same view.

If that was Agüero on De Gea you could bet the mortgage on Neville bellowing it was a straight red
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09 September 2017 15:26 Post ID: #605450 - in reply to #605426
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......and now they are doing their crust because Moss appears to 'snub' Klopp's handshake after the game

Oh for goodness sake

http://www.givemesport.com/1142801-what-happened-between-jon-moss-a...
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09 September 2017 15:29 Post ID: #605451 - in reply to #605426
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Greater Manchester Police tweet....

"We are deploying a number of officers to Eastlands to take 11 reports of assault due to the beating just handed out to Liverpool FC.“

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09 September 2017 15:32 Post ID: #605452 - in reply to #605450
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Unbelievable the excuses made for the Dippers. A total capitulation by them, but there will be an asterisk by this game? WTF "Lesser" teams go down to 10 and don't crap the bed. The media will do and say anything to avoid giving us credit.
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09 September 2017 15:52 Post ID: #605455 - in reply to #605426
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It will all be about them being down 'unfairly' (TM Martin Tyler and Gary Neville) to ten men.

We have been here before and you still have to deliver against a side who are a man down but that won't be the narrative.

Breaking News.....

The FA have been asked to sending off Mane as a case of mistaken identity- they believe he sent off the wrong player and should have sent off Ederson instead.

A spokesman stated -

"We will be reviewing th decision of Jon Moss to send off Sadie Mane. This clearly affected the 'spectacle' and disappointed our partners at Sky. The fact that they failed to make this point when Walker was sent off against Everton is irrelevant.

"We feel that the goal keeper was inappropriately out of his area and unfairly affecting the play. He used excessive force with his head against the boot of his opponent and could clearly endangered the Liverpool player's safety - Mane could have easily jarred his ankle connecting with the goal keeper's face.

"in these cases it's normally an issue of whether players from the same side have been booked mixed up but we feel that Jon Moss's use of the card was misinterpreted by Mane and that Ederson (who is actions are also subject to review by the special FA panel on diving - we believe he may have deceived the referee by intentional simulation of a broken jaw, cheekbone or concussion) should have been dismissed instead. We will await the referee' so report before telling him which bits to change.

"The fact that the keeper was pole-axed on the ground, concussed and had his eyes closed is no defence. This will form part of a wider investigation as to why Manchester City FC were allowed by the officials to finish the game with all eleven players on the pitch. We are looking at whether the team of officials breached their guidelines and missed any opportunities to reduce them to ten men (or less)".

"The officials may be subject to remedial training"
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09 September 2017 16:24 Post ID: #605459 - in reply to #605448
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Skoorb - 9/9/2017 15:18

Nope. Totally genuine.

What planet are they on?

Just apply the following test - change the positions and imagine that was Agüero on Mignolet. I do not think they would have the same view.

If that was Agüero on De Gea you could bet the mortgage on Neville bellowing it was a straight red



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09 September 2017 16:56 Post ID: #605461 - in reply to #605426
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Manchester City to be charged with over celebrating

"The FA have confirmed that because Manchester City scored too many goals against "Klopp's Hero's" aka The People's Champions, all the goal scorers are to be collectively charged with over celebrating. To continually score goals and repeatedly celebrate them is regarded by the FA as demeaning to the opposition and their fans who, understandably upset, might endanger themselves by kicking something in frustration.

"We also cannot ignore their mental health - the egregious behaviour of the City players and the congratulatory actions runs the serious risk of threatening the sense of self-entitlement which is so intrinsic to fans of Liverpool FC and as such we believe that mentally they could face serious challenges going forward especially when they return to work. We don't expect as many to be wearing their replica shirts for the next week forcing them to make clothing decisions which will only add to the mental anguish. We are considering setting up a health line for all affected by this defeat.

"We regard the behaviour of Agüero, Jesus and Sane as unsportsmanlike and they will face retrospective charges. As Jesus and Sane scored twice we think this is just rubbing salt in the wounds and so their punishment will reflect this. They can expect bans of at least 8 games each. We are also considering requiring these players to have their laces tied together for the reminder of the season."
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09 September 2017 18:56 Post ID: #605466 - in reply to #605426
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Klopp's logic here makes no sense whatsoever

"It was an accident. [Mane] is very unlucky. The situation I think everyone knows he didn’t see the goalie. There was not one second he looks on the goalie. He just wanted to get the ball as soon as possible."

So according to this 'logic' Mane would have raised his foot to shoulder/head level to control that ball irrespective of the presence of the keeper. In other words whilst running on to the lofted pass he was unaware the keeper was going to challenge him for the ball and so would have leapt into the air and tried to control the ball in mid-air on the edge of the box?

What a loads of utter bollocks.

Of course he was aware of the keeper, that was the ONLY reason he would have for leaping with his right leg extended as he strove to get to the ball before an opponent that he must have known was moving to challenge for the same ball. He did so to get to the ball before the other player. If you don't "see the goalie" you would wait for the ball to drop to a better height to control it - and not knowing the keeper was there would have gotten clattered as you wouldn't be expecting any contact.

Not sure if I'm explaining it well - In short I think that if you don't think you're going to be challenged you wouldn't think to raise your leg to that height to control the ball.

He knew the keeper was coming, he just thought he would beat him to the ball. He was wrong.

I cannot fathom the debate - you do that anywhere else in the pitch and take a player out at the knee it's a straight red. Bizarre discussion.
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09 September 2017 19:05 Post ID: #605468 - in reply to #605426
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I look at it this way, Neville and Tyler both in the wrong here for taking the piss regarding every tackle in the game as putting the players safety at risk.

If Mané had one foot on the ground and his boot was high and made contact, I would agree a yellow would have been the better option, but if you look at the replays from various angles you will see that both feet are off the ground and therefore Mané cannot be in control of the tackle and the referees decision is correct.

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09 September 2017 19:13 Post ID: #605469 - in reply to #605426
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Rule 12

A player can head or chest the high ball but if he uses his foot, he should make sure there is no player in the immediate vicinity whose safety will be endangered (red card).
Players now need to realise they can no longer control a high ball with their foot if the referee deems it has endangered the safety of an opponent. The fact that the player did not mean to endanger his opponent is irrelevant. Intent is no longer in the Laws. The referee does not need to consider whether the player deliberately did it or not. He looks at the outcome which is contact or no contact.

BTW
CELEBRATION OF A GOAL

Players can celebrate when a goal is scored, but the celebration must not be excessive; choreographed celebrations are not encouraged and must not cause excessive time-wasting.

Leaving the field of play to celebrate a goal is not a cautionable offence but players should return as soon as possible.
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09 September 2017 19:25 Post ID: #605472 - in reply to #605426
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The good news about Ederson is that nothing is broken and he may have to wear some protective headgear, like an elastoplast, but it looked serious at the time.

I love the fake news items guys and if some rags and dippers were reading them, they would be agreeing with every word written.
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09 September 2017 19:59 Post ID: #605476 - in reply to #605426
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I take it Liverpool will appeal this red then.
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09 September 2017 20:02 Post ID: #605477 - in reply to #605426
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The amount of blathering on about 'no intent', 'only has eyes for the ball' and 'Mane's not like that - he hasn't gone out to hurt the guy' as if any of those were relevant. They certainly weren't when Agüero was crucified for catching Winston Reid in the face last year and I see no reason why they keep getting brought up.

All this 'he had to go for the ball' business The ONLY reason he challenged for the ball in the air wa s because he realised that if he didn't thenthe keeper was going to get to the ball before him for sure so he tried to gain an extra inch by leaping. As we have seen elsewhere if you make tackle and leave the ground then you are deemed not to be in control of the tackle and plainly, as outlined by THE RULES outlined by Buzz above, if you endanger an opponent by doing so it is a sending off offence. End. Of. Story.

Oliver Holt sums it up here. This is not the 1960's and the days of Chopper Harris.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4868440/Moss-mere...
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09 September 2017 20:03 Post ID: #605478 - in reply to #605476
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Bluedub - 9/9/2017 19:59

I take it Liverpool will appeal this red then.


Not according to this but I wouldn't be surprised if they did once he calms down

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/liverpoo...
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09 September 2017 20:25 Post ID: #605480 - in reply to #605426
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Five Nil.
Five fücking nil.












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10 September 2017 07:11 Post ID: #605490 - in reply to #605426
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The best moment of the game for Pep?

Agüero through on goal ........opts to pass to a better placed team mate and his striking partner Jesus. That would have pleased Pep beyond measure.

Maybe it might shut up the 'can these two play together' knobs in the media
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10 September 2017 08:01 Post ID: #605493 - in reply to #605490
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Skoorb - 10/9/2017 07:11

The best moment of the game for Pep?

Agüero through on goal ........opts to pass to a better placed team mate and his striking partner Jesus. That would have pleased Pep beyond measure.

Maybe it might shut up the 'can these two play together' knobs in the media


That was great to see, it's funny the experts all seem to have missed that Aguero and Jesus showed signs of this chemistry at the back end of last season.

As an example, Aguero didn't have a single PL assist until he was joined by Jesus up front, he ended up with 3 altogether and two of them were for Jesus.

There was also Jesus'disallowed goal in the Derby that came from an Aguero assist and I'm sure another of Jesus' disallowed goals came from an Aguero assist too.

Perhaps the experts chose to miss it.
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