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Manchester City 2 Shaktar Donetsk 0 Stats Link & Post Match Reaction & Debate
26 September 2017 23:09 Post ID: #607369 - in reply to #607344
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According to Whoscored.com Bernardo only made one pass tonight, the assist.
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27 September 2017 06:59 Post ID: #607377 - in reply to #607365
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Bluedub - 26/9/2017 22:37

Good impact substitutes tonight, Bernardo and Sterling sealing it.
Something else the coach ought to get some credit for (but I doubt that he will)
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27 September 2017 09:31 Post ID: #607387 - in reply to #607344
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Who else should have a go at taking the penalties?
As much as we like Kun, he has missed a few.
Just a thought.
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27 September 2017 09:43 Post ID: #607388 - in reply to #607387
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OziMan - 27/9/2017 09:31

Who else should have a go at taking the penalties?
As much as we like Kun, he has missed a few.
Just a thought.


He really telegraphed that one, keeper went early too, wasn't confident before he took it tbh. Justice I guess in a way, as it should never have been a penalty.

DeBruyne would probably be the best bet but then there was that one against Everton last season, has he taken one since?

Yaya doesn't miss them but then he's only going to play a bit part this season.
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27 September 2017 10:09 Post ID: #607390 - in reply to #607344
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The gamesmanship from the Shakhtar players didn't help and he had too much time to think about it. He doesn't have a great record at penalties for sure. I seriously hope that he can get this goal scoring record monkey off his back sooner rather than later - it WILL happen but the longer it drags on, the more it is talked about, the harder he may try and i fear it could undo some of the excellent and unselfish work that he has contributed so far this season. In his mind he may start to doubt the benefit of providing the assists that we have seen - he could start thinking "**ck it, I will try myself"....

Yaya is the obvious master at the penalty game but if he isn't on the pitch why not get David Silva to step up. He scores them for Spain.
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27 September 2017 10:37 Post ID: #607393 - in reply to #607387
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OziMan - 27/9/2017 09:31

Who else should have a go at taking the penalties?
As much as we like Kun, he has missed a few.
Just a thought.

Yaya, 14 out of 14, but he can't get a run, so use Red Kev or Walker.
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27 September 2017 13:21 Post ID: #607396 - in reply to #607344
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^That's why I think Sterling took the penalty at Watford.
Jesus had been taken off, Toure wasn't involved, so trying out future options. Maybe a wild theory, but it's the only one I can come up with.
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27 September 2017 13:44 Post ID: #607398 - in reply to #607388
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Bluedub - 27/9/2017 09:43

OziMan - 27/9/2017 09:31

Who else should have a go at taking the penalties?
As much as we like Kun, he has missed a few.
Just a thought.


He really telegraphed that one, keeper went early too, wasn't confident before he took it tbh. Justice I guess in a way, as it should never have been a penalty.

DeBruyne would probably be the best bet but then there was that one against Everton last season, has he taken one since?

Yaya doesn't miss them but then he's only going to play a bit part this season.


If the record had been behind him, then Sergio would have scored it, the nerves simply got to him.

The best taker we have is Yaya, then Sergio, the two best ever were Mario and Elano
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27 September 2017 14:07 Post ID: #607403 - in reply to #607365
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Bluedub - 26/9/2017 22:37

Good impact substitutes tonight, Bernardo and Sterling sealing it.


he may have had only two touches tonight, one being the assist, but his efforts off the ball or hunting for the ball were brilliant and he picked out Sterling superbly and he very much had an impact on the game.
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27 September 2017 14:16 Post ID: #607404 - in reply to #607344
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I watched the U19s earlier and they did exactly the same as the Seniors in terms of creating chances but not converting them.

The assistant behind the goal ref should have indicated that the penalty should have been retaken, BD is correct the GK went early and was well off his line.

Everyone apart from Eddy, Ferna and Delphy had a bad first half, but a goal was going to come eventually, Shaktar were quick and talented but even when they got through you just knew that you still had that chance to stop them scoring with Eddy in goals, he really gives that back line confidence.

Like against Palace they were a different side almost after halftime and moved the ball quicker and smarter and De Bruyne just opened the lock, could tell if it was a penalty on Sané or Sterling, but there was a shout after Sané which looked a better call but this ref was never going to give us two in a match.

It was a ground out victory, probably the best side to play City this season.
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28 September 2017 09:13 Post ID: #607435 - in reply to #607344
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from Football365's Mediawatch:


In rude Delph
Fabian Delph played at left-back for Manchester City against Shakhtar Donetsk. He was really good. He made three tackles, four interceptions and one clearance, and was crowned “man of the match” by manager Pep Guardiola after the game.

David Anderson of the Daily Mirror was not wholly impressed. He says it highlights the ‘flaw’, the ‘uncharacteristic oversight’ in Guardiola’s squad.

‘Guardiola had probably not expected Aleksandar Kolarov to go, but the Serb’s head was turned by an offer from Roma,’ Anderson writes. ‘So it was left to Delph to smooth off his square corners and try to be a round peg in a round hole.

‘Guardiola had every faith in Delph because as a former midfielder himself, the Catalan believes they are the most intelligent players on the pitch due to their ability to play in defence and attack.

‘Delph was probably just glad to get a start and it was only his 21st in his two-and-a-half years at City.’

Anderson does concede that Delph ‘did make a fine tackle’ at one stage and was ‘not overworked’, but he says that ‘bigger challenges lie ahead if Mendy remains out’.

‘Mendy driving forward for City from his left-back position has been a big plus for them this season and Delph did not do that.’

No, but he did create two goalscoring chances, fewer than only David Silva and Kevin de Bruyne, and completed three dribbles, fewer than only Leroy Sane.

Add the fact that full-backs under Guardiola often tuck into central midfield, as Anderson himself concedes in the piece, and that Danilo offers a more defensive option as Mendy’s replacement if needed, and you start to wonder what all the fuss is about.
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28 September 2017 09:46 Post ID: #607437 - in reply to #607435
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The main fact that he has had only a few starts is that he has been unlucky with injuries, It was a known fact that he does get or pick up slight niggles which keep him out of the game.

The writer mentions Kolarov, Mendy and Delph, supposing that all three are potential left wingers and as we have seen probably only Mendy is the one that flies down the left to get in a low fast cross, Kolarov could get there and maybe get in a cross, but could never get back. Delph looks fitter and has a football brain and did his job well, Shaktar were tricky, but Fabian stuck to the task and I think came out on top.

There will be harder tests, but even Chelsea have their own converted midfielder into wing-back in Moses and he was the bees knees, the best thing since you found out that rubbing your runners on your sled with grease-proof paper made it go faster.

The fact is we don't have that many alternatives, but Fabian has been around a bit, is an International and therefore can play a bit.

Eyebrows raised at first, yes bit another versatile player that Pep loves
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28 September 2017 12:53 Post ID: #607445 - in reply to #607344
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His versatility is the key. Not only did Delph make an excellent tackle worthy of any defender but he was able to work with his team mates in working the ball out of some tight situations due to his midfielder experience & ability. He is not Mendy for sure but you cannot legislate for a serious injury to a key signing so early in the season and with such a seemingly innocuous challenge so David 'never picked a losing side' Anderson is being a bit harsh in referring to is as an 'uncharacteristic oversight'.

FFS these are the same people banging on at City's spending whilst ignoring the fact that to get another player of similar ability in the current market would have cost in the region of £40-50m with the 'City Premium' included. Imagine the fuss if Pep had spent an extra £40m+ on 'another fullback'?
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