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VAR - yes or no?
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Stick with it - early days yet7 Votes - [100%]
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28 January 2018 06:56 Post ID: #617376
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VAR once again in the headlines after the dippers were dumped out of the cup by City’s next league opponents WBA.

Much faffing about at the Hawthorns it seems.........it is early days and the failure of the authorities to permit the replays to be shown on the screens appears to be causing unhappiness which I can understand. Feels like the FA are keeping thing safe and avoiding the scrutiny that more transparency around the decsins would bring.

So.....would you stick with the system or ditch it?
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28 January 2018 07:03 Post ID: #617379 - in reply to #617376
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I vote stick with it. At this experimental stage it's slow and a bit clumsy (and that refers to both VAR and the officials) but with fine-tuning it will become quicker. At the end of the day, if it get's the decisions correct, it has to be worth it.


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28 January 2018 07:44 Post ID: #617382 - in reply to #617379
VAR is still a 'work in progress' and needs to be given time so those who are in charge of the system can iron out any issues.

I am all for it, for now.
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28 January 2018 08:33 Post ID: #617387 - in reply to #617376
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I a man for sticking with it. Early days, teething problems etc but important to get the right decision.

The decisions at Anfield yesterday were all correct but there was frustration over the time it took to reach them especially when the review videos are not shown in the stadium.

We will see if it comes into play this afternoon in our fixture.....
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28 January 2018 08:42 Post ID: #617389 - in reply to #617387
Skoorb - 28/1/2018 08:33

We will see if it comes into play this afternoon in our fixture.....


I don't believe VAR is available for the Cardiff game Skoorb.
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28 January 2018 09:14 Post ID: #617390 - in reply to #617389
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There is bound to be controversy and the main problem that appears from last night was that it takes the fun out of controversial decisions says the commentator, there is nothing to talk about afterwards in the pub, look at it everyone's talking about VAR.

If the decision in the end is the right one and I am not too sure about Salah obvious collapse as though all the bones in his bones instantly disappeared because he felt the slight tug, but should players go down? On the other hand it cuts out controversial offsides and definitely cuts out diving.

Yes they are taking their time and they moan about it, but there should be a time keeper like they do in rugby. How many times have we seen over the years TV showing different angles of things that the referee has only had one angle for a spit second and how long do these replays go on for?

I think they will get better and quicker, eg. they would be no need for the ref on the field to view the TV, he should take the decision of the VAR referee (again like they do in cricket)

I assume all players know what a foul is and they realise the consequences of their actions, the obvious one would be Diver Young's elbow.

We stick with it.
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28 January 2018 09:37 Post ID: #617392 - in reply to #617390
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One of the problems is that the crowd don't know what's going on whilst the VAR is being used. Some suggested that it should be like in rugby where you can hear the ref. However, it has been pointed out, quite rightly, that there is respect for the ref in rugby but there is no respect for our refs and the foul-mouthed language of the footballers would be audible. The broadcasters would be forever apologising for it.
I think one solution might be that the studio VAR ref should be mic'd up to inform the crowd what's happening.


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28 January 2018 10:14 Post ID: #617395 - in reply to #617376
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Stick with it, all I want is the right decision which is fair to both teams. It will get better over time, who would not want goal line technology now ??
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28 January 2018 10:16 Post ID: #617396 - in reply to #617376
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Didn't watch last night but I believe it was varcical.

As has been touched on here already, transparency is key if this is to be accepted by the football public, I feel.
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28 January 2018 11:03 Post ID: #617398 - in reply to #617396
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Bluedub - 28/1/2018 10:16

Didn't watch last night but I believe it was varcical.

As has been touched on here already, transparency is key if this is to be accepted by the football public, I feel.


I watched it and I didn't think it was farcical at all. Each referral just took too long. All the decisions were correct.

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28 January 2018 12:46 Post ID: #617401 - in reply to #617376
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As I said, this could be shortened by the on-field ref not looking at the screen, but taking the decision of the VAR Ref who is I assume just as qualified, but transparency would be good if the VAR decision making could be seen on the big screen to the fans
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02 February 2018 12:53 Post ID: #618093 - in reply to #617401
Thread bumped just in case someone else wants to vote and voice their say.
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03 February 2018 05:35 Post ID: #618121 - in reply to #617376
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Yes stick with it if only because it is here and it will not go away. Once it becomes streamlined it will be great and as has been mentioned, the crowd needs to know what is going on.
Perhaps at long last, players surrounding the refs protesting will be punished so that will be a good addition to it.
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07 February 2018 07:37 Post ID: #618502 - in reply to #617376
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More fishy goings on as the puzzling failure of the added time at the end of the Liverpool v WBA FA Cup game to match the amount of time spent undertaking VAR reviews has a different light thrown upon it by Klopp who alludes to the influence of BT Sport.

We all know that the "tail wags the dog" these days but would they have this level of influence because of broadcast schedule pressure?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/01/29/jurgen-klopp-claims-...
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07 February 2018 07:57 Post ID: #618504 - in reply to #617376
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No, I don't think the broadcaster can dictate the length of the game and I think Klippity was confused as alluded to. However, it is something they are going to have to make sure doesn't become an issue. I also agree that that decisions will get made quicker once the offals are fully up to speed, so to speak, and are used to the technology.

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07 February 2018 08:10 Post ID: #618505 - in reply to #617376
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I still rankle over the famous 7 mins when 4 were shown in the match where Owen scored a last kick winner

a proper time keeper play till the ball goes out of play, that means those last minute corners, where they take their time never happens.
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07 February 2018 08:24 Post ID: #618506 - in reply to #618505
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Buzz Lightyear - 7/2/2018 08:10

I still rankle over the famous 7 mins when 4 were shown in the match where Owen scored a last kick winner

a proper time keeper play till the ball goes out of play, that means those last minute corners, where they take their time never happens.


Yes, Buzz. Fergie-time was irrefutable. If they were losing, their games went on and on until they scored.



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