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Everton 1 - Manchester City 0

Goodison Park

Tuesday 31st January 2011 8.00PM

Attendance: 29, 856

City Beaten By Ref, Again!

After the weekend off, tonight`s game saw Mancini`s men face one of their bogey sides in David Moyes` Everton team. Everton had only lost one of their last thirteen home games against City and even worse, City have never won against Everton in the Premier League after conceding the first goal. Mind you, City had kind of torn up the record books this season haven broken pretty much every record the club and the league have set.

Good news for City that Kompany was back to replace the nervous looking Savic and the team sheet read as follows: Hart, Richards, Kompany, Lescott, Clichy, Milner, Barry, Silva, Nasri, Aguero and Dzeko. The subs bench consisted of: Pantilimon, Zabaleta, Savic, Kolarov, De Jong, Johnson and Razak.

The game kicked off in a charged atmosphere with City playing left to right and instantly launched a long ball toward Dzeko. Within a minute, City had earnt a free kick after Heitinga brought down Dzeko just over thirty yards out from goal. The ball was played out wide to Richards who interchanged neatly with Milner, who eventually strayed offside. Second foul of the game came in the third minute after a nasty challenge by Baines who went in two footed on Kompany.

First corner of the game came in the fourth minute after the ball came off Lescott. The ball was swung toward the far post and headed toward goal by Everton`s unpronounceable striker. The header was arrowing toward goal and had Hart beaten hands down only for Lescott to clear the ball off the line.

Within seconds City were attacking at the other end and had earnt a corner after Richards shot was pushed out by Howard. The corner went far post and was headed back in by Kompany only to be gathered by the Everton keeper.

On the stroke of eight minutes, Fellaini looked to have broken free of the City defence but great covering by Lescott saw the ball forced wide and the chance for Everton recede. A good tackle and pass by Richards saw Aguero break down the City right. The move was ended by a blatant push by Baines on Milner which was given as an Everton throw???? From the dodgy decision Everton broke up field and crossed in a neat ball which ended with a tame header from Cahill which Hart gathered easilty.

Next chance fell to City as Silva played an exquisite ball to Milner on the right wing. The City player crossed the ball perfectly for Dzeko and if not for a timely interception from Gibson, the towering Bosnian looked certain to shoot.

On the stroke of fifteen minutes, Drenthe threw himself to the floor theatrically after running past Kompany. The ref waved play on and surely should have booked the Everton player for simulation, but this was starting to look like a game where the home team would certainly bend the rules in an attempt to beat the better team.

Everton earnt another corner in the seventeenth minute after Kompany cleared the ball into touch under pressure from Baines. The near post ball was easily cleared by Dzeko who turned defender himself to dispossess Drenthe. Within seconds City were attacking at the other end and had a corner of their own after Dzeko`s shot came off a defender. The Silva cross was easily gathered by Howard.

Everton were awarded a free kick after Drenthe once more went down as if shot when Milner dispossessed him. This time the ref bought it, but such was the poor decision making from Drenthe he played the ball straight to Clichy who passed to Silva. The Spaniard played a sublime ball to Aguero who`s shot went just wide.

Drenthe then attempted to chop Richards in half after the City man had dispossessed him with a strong but fair challenge. The ref awarded a free kick, but no word for the player.

Baines put in a good tackle on Richards in the twenty eigth minute after Milner found him in the box. The throw City earnt from Baines` clearance was played long to Dzeko whose weak header was easily gathered by Howard.

The ref was once again reticent to award City a free kick in the twenty ninth minute after Milner was clipped from behind near the Everton penalty box. Whilst the City player kept his footing, he lost possession of the ball. City were quick to win it back and were soon attacking again, but the Manchester Blues were struggling to break down the ten men camped along the Everton penalty box.

Suddenly in the thirty first minute, after several tackles by each team, all of which could have been awarded with a free kick, the ref deemed a challenge by Barry, no worse than any of the others, to be worthy of a free kick, it was of course in range for an Everton free kick which is probably why he gave it. As the free kick was launched, the Everton striker deliberately barged into Hart and the ref missed it completely.

Clearly unhappy with the diving, kicking and underhand tactics, City were getting distraught and after a soft tackle not even worthy of a free kick, Kompany somehow found himself in the refs book. How Baines and Drenthe had escaped without even a telling off whilst the City Captain gets booked is beyond me and made me think that once again the ref was doing everything in his power to make sure City had a difficult time.

On the stroke of thirty six minutes and despite the attentions of the ref and the Everton kickers. City nearly broke the deadlock as Nasri found himself unmarked twenty five yards from goal. He struck the ball sweetly and with power, it beat the flailing arms of Howards and struck the inside of post and cross bar. How lucky were Everton going to be tonight.

Next talking point was a stamp by Fellaini on Nasri which rather obviously now went unpunished. In fact it was looking like the Everton players would need to produce Stanley knives to get their names in the refs book.

With five minutes of play to go, an Everton fan, clearly upset at the referee`s bias, decided to handcuff himself to Hart`s goal post….says a lot really.

As the normal time ended, five minutes of stoppage time was announced. Everton had built up a head of steam and despite lacking any finesse, were playing in the City half, without it had to be added, looking dangerous.

With two minutes of stoppage time, another tackle from behind this time on Nasri, went unpunished by the referee again when City were in a dangerous position. There was a definite trend to the first half of the game. Everton attack, City tackle, Everton dive. Or City attack Everton foul and the ref waves play on. This was another poor showing by the referee and a typical thuggish performance from Moyes` clodhoppers.

The second half kicked off with no changes to either side and City were soon forcing Everton back into their own half and playing long balls that City easily dealt with.

City were on the attack again within two minutes of the half kicking firstly through Nasri and then Dzeko who`s neat header was stopped by Howard.

On the stroke of fourty nine minutes, Silva broke through the Everton midfield and was kicked from behind but managed to maintain his feet. He played the ball through to Aguero who returned the favour only for Silva to be ruled offside. Once again though, the ref failed to have a word with the Everton player about his poor and illegal tackle.

Fifty one minutes in and it was Aguero who this time broke with the ball. He played a cross to Dzeko which was behind the City centre forward. Nasri though was in position to take the ball and work it back into the box. Lescott was furthest forward but as he strayed to near Howard, the ref blew his whistle for a free kick, funny how he had failed to do that in the first half when the Everton striker barged into Hart.

City were moving the ball around with much more pace than in the opening forty five and Everton were struggling to keep up and in the fifty fourth minute Hibbert man handled Dzeko pulling on his arm. The ref unsurprisingly awarded the free kick to Everton. Despite this help the ref was clearly giving to Everton, City were in the ascendancy and it looked a matter of time before Howard would be picking the ball out of his net.

On the stroke of fifty seven minutes Everton were once again helped by the ref after Aguero was brought down in the Everton box by Fellaini. There was minimal contact with the ball and definite contact with the player first yet play was unsurprisingly waved on. Within seconds Lescott had been booked for a body check. Funny that.

With the help of the ref, Everton were in the lead through a deflected Gibson shot in the sixtieth minute. Thoroughly undeserved and wholly against the run of play but a goal is a goal and Moyes` clodhoppers were looking like taking all three points.

City actually won a free kick for a foul on Dzeko in the sixty second minute but the foul occurred in the centre circle so the ref probably didn`t feel to bad awarding one there.

City were not even getting the throw in`s as Kompany cleared a ball off Neville but saw the throw awarded to Everton. The officiating of City games was becoming something of a joke as decision after decision was given in favour of Everton and City fans as a whole were starting to get cheesed off.

Mancini soon made a number of changes as first Milner was replaced by Johnson and the Lescott was replaced by Kolarov.

The changes seemed to have an immediate impact as Nasri almost chipped Howard from a few yards out to the keepers left.

As the minutes wore on, the City players couldn`t even use their shoulders without the Everton players dropping like flies and the ref lapping up the opportunity to award a free kick.

A clear handball in the box on seventy four minutes, far more obvious than the one given against Richards last week, was this time ignored by the ref as it had been carried out by an Everton player in the Everton box and this would have meant awarding City a penalty something the ref would never do.

Seconds after this Drenthe should have been red carded for an above the ball tackle on Richards that could have cut the City player in half. The ref ignored this as well and this was now the worst refereeing performance I had seen this season and I had seen some awful ones.

In the seventy eighth minute thug of the week Drenthe was replaced by Baxter when he should have been off the pitch having seen red.

With ten minutes to go City were pounding on the Everton door but a mixture of fouls and handballs seemed to stop City in their tracks. A perfect example occurred on the stroke of eighty three minutes when Barry was brought down from behind by Baines in a sliding challenge after the ball had gone. After apologising to the prostrate Barry, Baines was allowed to play on by the ref who appeared to think that illegal challenges were ok as long as you apologised. Similar to not seeing a stamp that video shows you were looking straight at.

With four minutes of normal time left, Mancini replaced Barry with De Jong, hopefully to do something about Everton`s best player, the ref.

Four minutes of added time was announced as City looked to get a point out of the game. The players seemed utterly frustrated with the wall Everton put in front of them, with the referee and with themselves. City had not been able to put a good final ball in all night and when they had looked in a promising position, they were kicked, tackled from behind, pulled down or generally dealt with in a dirty fashion. The ref was happy to allow this play from Everton. Indeed two penalties not given, one for a foul and one for a clear hand ball. Two red cards not given, one for Drenthe for attempting to cut Richards in two and one for Baines for his tackle from behind and another pathetic yellow card given to Kompany. This was not to be City`s night and the undeserved win went to Everton. The man of the match for Everton however was the referee.

Star Player

City didn't have a star player tonight, there was genuine effort from every player, but something has been missing from the side for the last few weeks.

Player Ratings


Joe Hart - 7

Could do nothing about the goal and wasn't otherwise tested.

Micah Richards - 7

Got forward a few times but his final ball was left wanting. Could have been badly injured by a poor and dangerous tackle from Drenthe.

Vincent Kompany - 7

Booked for a nothing challenge and clearly on the watch list for referees.

Joleon Lescott - 6

One of his worst games for a while.

Gael Clichy - 6

Didn't look effective going forward.

James Milner - 7

The effort was there as was the industry but the final ball was poor.

Gareth Barry - 5

His worst game in a City shirt for a while. Gave the ball away too much. At fault for the goal. Who turns their back on a shot when you are in your own box. Needs to be dropped for that.

David Silva - 7

Made some good passes and seemed to be at the centre of most things. Got kicked off the park.

Samir Nasri - 7.5

Had the best shot of the game and looked good. Got kicked off the park.

Sergio Aguero - 7

Went through a tough time tonight.

Edin Dzeko - 5

Two tame headers and some poor control. Not good enough.

Adam Johnson - 5

Did he come on as a Sub...couldn't say I noticed.

Aleksander Kolarov - 6

Better at attacking than Clichy but much worse at defending.

Nigel De Jong - 6

Too late to mark.

Manager Rating

Roberto Mancini - 6

His team has suffered in recent weeks and just aren't creating the chances despite dominating possession. Something needs to change or he can give up on the League.

Ref Watch

Well once again at least four or five key decisions went against City. Clearly there is a hidden agenda going on here. Two penalty claims, two possible red cards and some generally thuggish play was totally ignored by the ref and his pathetic officials. The FA wont answer questions about bias and I doubt Brian Marwood will get a straight answer to his letter sent to Mike Riley.




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Date:Tuesday January 31 2012

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Your Comments

no were were done by the fact we were crap,cant expect to win games when players only show any real commitment when going behind
humpty
don't think we can blame the ref for this one, we were generally poor. you can't curse our luck either i suppose when we've got 3 of the next 4 games at home.
arthur7171
I am not going to argue about the ref, you clearly have your views, and I have mine (mate those penalty claims are ridiculous, I mean City players didnt even bother appealing). But how about, after every result you stop complaining about the officiating, and you look at your own players? I dont watch City every week, but imagine a lot of players under performed tonight, and they were out worked all night, Everton showed more hunger, passion and determination than City, that is what yo should be worried about, not some half arsed claims about decisions, that at a very big push are 50/50 claims.
Rob-EFC
No way is this one down to the ref. We were ****e, end of. No passion, no ideas, no one stepped up. If anything is to be said about the ref, Drenthe should have been sent off - and Gollum knew it too, immediately subbing him after the Richards hack job. A City no-show against a teams annual FA Cup Final. Why has this result not surprised me
rojo2010
Bluerichy,you are quite wrong.The agenda isn't hidden,it is right out in the open.The FA are taking the p-ss at the moment with the instructions they are handing out to the refs.Can you imagine if Ballotelli had committed that assault that Drenthe made on Richards in the 2nd half?Sky would have shown it a thousand times within an hour of the match finishing,Gollum would be demanding that Mario was banned for life,and the FA would be instructing Walton to say he didn,t see it and take retrospective action against Ballotelli.As for the two penalties,you're having a laugh if you think we were going to get them.As i have said before,Marwood has to come out and not just write a nice polite letter,but threaten to sue the arse of the FA,because what is happening at the moment is totally bent.
giolib921
We were poor tonight but the ref was worse. Enough said.
bluerichy
Rojo2010,you are right in saying we were sh--e,Mancini admitted it,taking the blame for it himself.But the ref did influence the result,the first penalty claim was a minute before the goal.Rob-efc,the reason City players didn't appeal was because they are getting **** all from the refs at the moment,but well done in your cup final anyway.
giolib921
We're like a different team away than home. Yes, we got nothing off Walton for the third successive Everton away fixture (WHY DOES HE KEEP GETTING THIS GAME AND HARDLY ANY OTHERS? It's incredibly suspicious, especially as each one has the same pattern) but even with their 11 and the referee we should have tw*tted them. No ruthlessness or bite up front when we did have opening.
StuMCFC
bluerichy, I'd be more inclined to say the ref was poor but we were worse. Neither penalty claims were clear cut and if they were penalty decisions that had gone against us, VMC may well have imploded
rojo2010
Look folks, the writing was on the wall as soon as Peter Walton was named as match official. Why does this man always seem to get this fixture? It's the third time in as many seasons that he's officiated a game between City and Everton, and we've got nothing from him in any of those games. 13 games with Walton in charge has seen City 1 win, 5 draws, 7 losses. YCMIU. There is no denying that we were far from our best tonight, but does anyone think that could have something to do with the fact that Richards, Kompany and Nasri were all clearly injured by tackles from Neverton players? How can any team be expected to play free-flowing, attacking football when their every attempt is met by a snide, sly little foul, or in Drenthe's case, repeated assaults? We emerged from this match with 2 bookings to Neverton's one - any neutral that watched this game will tell you that is an absolute farce. Whether Drenthe's late, high tackle on Richards was a straight red is debatable (The match commentators suggested he was a VERY lucky boy indeed), but it most definitely should have been his second yellow of the night, after one of any number of fouls and dives that went unpunished earlier. The most laughable thing about tonight was that a City player was fouled in the move that led to the Neverton goal, yet the referee seemed to blow City players up for much, much less. I don't care what anyone else thinks now, you can laugh at me, say I'm being paranoid, or whatever. But the situation surrounding decisions not given/given against Manchester City in every game now has gone beyond a joke, it isn't just bad luck anymore. We are being completely stitched up every time we take to the field, and it is extremely distressing to see our players getting fouled repeatedly, yet hauled over the coals the moment they touch an opponent. And if Micah Richards' "Handball" against Liverpool was a penalty, then Phil Neville's has got to be worth two. Sick of this crap, someone out there has pulled out the stops to make taggarts retirement year a happy one.
fifthcolumnblue
FCB - disagree with that - you are not getting stiched up at all, youve had some decisions go against ya - sweet fa with any kind of agenda against ya - and it smells of you being sore losers, some of your guys have said you werent good enough, hell, even Mankini said tonight he underestimated Everton, and never said anything about the 'pen' incident - Nev was moving his arm AWAY from the ball, yes we have seen them given, but on many occasions they havn't - come on it was poorly played by City tonight and Everton clearly deserved the win
niteworlok
I wouldn't go so far as to say they deserved their win NW. We made them look awful for large parts, we just lacked that cutting edge in the final third and gave away a soft goal. Mike Walton is a terrible ref and I expected Everton to get the 50/50s with him in charge, especially at Goodison, but the ref didn't beat us tonight, we beat ourselves.
Bluedub
Same ref who played when you beat us? ... when two of your players should of been sent off ... you need to rise to the challlenge you didnt score got beat simple .... only 5 points in front and sure you willdrop more UTD will get the crown COYS
E17YID
You have had your fair share of poor ref decisions. ALAH BALOTELLI ON PARKER and pinched a fortunate 3 points. Cum Uppance dear boys, Cum Uppance.
COYS R US
Typical spud fan - a closet rag. All those years of being their feeder club has turned your head. And NW - I've had a season ticket for 20 years this year, and I have never seen anything like the bad decisions we've been getting. You wouldn't know about that, seeing as your manager has everyone so scared that they are reluctant to penalise your players even when they elbow opposition players off the ball. Sorry mate, barely a 50-50 goes our way, and i defy anyone to tell me that persistent fouling by the opposition does not affect your game - especially when they go in hard enough to give your players a hefty knock.
fifthcolumnblue
No, it'd be come uppance had we not had far more decisions against than for before that incident. That is the ONLY time this season where we have been gifted points (+2). Against Chelsea (-3), Sunderland (-3), and West Brom (-2) we were robbed of points by poor officiating. We should have daylight between us and United but it's very clear now that there are irregularities in how our games are being officiated to the extent that Brian Marwood is seeking face-to-face talks with referee chief Mike Riley. It's simple really, referees are human, referees have human feelings, and like so many other bitter spiteful people they don't like how we're gotten to the top and are taking out their frustrations on the pitch. Walton is the worst of them all.
StuMCFC
Having seen the decision to award a free kick to Tim Howard for a push by Lescott, yeah - stonewall City penalty. Ref fu(ked up big time there.
rojo2010
Hope anyone who thinks I'm just chewing sour grapes looks at the incident where Tim Howard sent Lescott flying in the box - it was a stonewall penalty that Walton gave as a foul on Howard. Simply unbelievable how Howard could plant both arms into Lescott's back, knock him to the floor (and away from the ball he was going for) and yet get the free kick. Mind-blowingly bent IMO.
fifthcolumnblue
Cum up yerself coys, I don't swing that way.
fifthcolumnblue
fcb,I think typical spud fan has come out of the closet.As for the more serious matter of the collusion between the FA,refs association,sky,talk s***e radio,newspapers and the rags(how influential is David Gill as an FA board member?),why is Marwood not being more active in pursuing the agenda against City?
giolib921
must of hurt beaten by an united reject
123spurs
No other walk of life would allow such a massive conflict of interest as the FA - I mean, come on, the chief executive of the most powerful c;lub in the league gets to make up the rules for the other clubs? Do me a ******** favour. Just remind them of this the next time a rag gives you any bul_**** about "Agent Bernstein" - 'cause if he is a City Agent he's gone deep, deep undercover. Unfortunately, David Gill hasn't.

REFORM THE FA NOW!
fifthcolumnblue
i agree it has happened to us aswell not so long ago
123spurs
Not as much as your pathetic mauling of the English language 123. Next week, 123 will learn to count to 4.
fifthcolumnblue
yet another rag loving spud.Who do you really support?
giolib921
wat cant u undertand sms tx
123spurs
Likewise 123, must HAVE hurt when the ex gooner Nasri lashed that ball past Friedel. I enjoyed that one a lot. Nice to know your sour grapes are still fermenting
rojo2010
im gettin tired yawwning about when u loose u blame the ref
123spurs
you mean the money grabber, we all no thats why all top players you sign is only for £££ they dont care about the club
123spurs
Watched the game, thought City were the better team but Everton defended well and had some luck on there side, a well deserved win...Can't really see where the drama from the referee is coming from though, might be that pressure of holding on to that top spot.
P.Avfc
Did you see Benoit Assou Ekotto's horror tackle on the Wigan player this evening? No? Thought not... Expect a 3 gamer ban there.
rojo2010
"City were the better side" - "a well deserved win"... Eh....
rojo2010
spuds fans need to get over this myth that once it got to 2-2 they had us on the ropes at the Etihad. You missed a great chance to steal the points with a 2 on 1 breakaway yet when Mario won the penalty you had 10 men in your own half..work it out. As regards tonights performance I can't wholly subscribe to the beat by the ref theory because I didn't think we were good enough in the final third and missed Yaya's physicality to counter their 'dogs of war'. The question EFC fans could be asking is why can't we perform like that every week ? The answer is that when you play 'lesser' teams you're expected to play a bit of football and attack teams but you're not very good at it. As for the decisions both penalty claims were marginal however if either had been awarded our belief in the 'decisions balance out over the season' mantra may have been temporarily restored. I'm with FCB on this one in 35 years of watching City even as we suffered all those relegation seasons I can't remember such a run of dubious decisions and double standards.
Ben-a-bia
rojo, City were the better side, not by much though but like i said i thought Everton defended well and gave 100%, fought very hard and grinded the victory...that is why i think it was well deserved.
P.Avfc
We were beaten by a side we should have beaten, Forget about the ref, right now our lack of penetration and goal scoring are the things that need addressing.
Oziman
Mancini has come out and said you werent prepared, you werent up for it and you under-estimated your opponent (how you do that after the recent history is beyond me). Mancini made no note of the ref, because there was nothing of note, sure we probably got a bit of an edge in the 50/50 department but all home teams seem to get it (City against Spuds week before for example). Of course, if fans like FCB expected a penalty for a clash between Howard and Lescott, then your going to feel aggrieved, you say you have watched for 35yrs, tell me, how many of those penalties have you seen given? My guess is close to none, surely FCB, you seem like a lad with abit of knowledge, keepers are a protected species, and have been for a while, so of course he was getting the free kick, it happens in every game, non-City and City games. I am kind of disappointed in the way SOME of the City fans are acting, seems the money you have been gifted have turned you into some sort of sore losers where you cant accept defeat having to blame it on something else, bit disappointing especially since your fans were top class prior to the money that was invested. Good luck for the rest of the season, I feel for some of your older supporters who have had to put up with the United nonsense for so long, and I hope you get your time over United
Rob-EFC
But what the ***** was with that lad handcuffing himself to the goal post? One of the craziest things I have seen on a football pitch, sometimes have no clue what goes through peoples head sometimes LMAO.
Rob-EFC
Indeed Rob. Story goes he was upset that Ryanair didn't emply his daughter. Fathers for justice!
Johnny Baguette
Rob, what do you know of City fans in all honesty? Mancini is right we were ill prepared for this one, we should have known Everton's tactics would be to kick City players up and down the park all night and not tried to play proper football. We should have put out a team to give as much ***** back as we took. I'd like to think that a lesson has been learnt but considering this happens on an annual basis I won't hold my breath.
Bluedub
Trouble is BD, is that everyone knows what happens when City try to give as much ***** back - we get shafted!
fifthcolumnblue
P.S. Can see why nobody else but Everton wanted that snide little barsteward Drenthe - a thoroughly nasty piece of work.
fifthcolumnblue
Mankini should have left the ref out of his side, still good result in the end..:-)
spu 4 life
Spu 4 life, wtf is that post about? What point are you trying to make? A message to the Spurs fans that keep commenting on our board since we beat you: You lost, you were beaten by the better team on the day, get over it, you are an embarrassment to your club.
Bluedub
you lot beat us only because howard webb had eyes up his ass, instead of his head, Tattoo Lescott should have walked for his forearm smash on kaboul, and the other twa7 should have gone for stamping on parker, so thanks to the ref you won that game, go out and buy some more players, oh you can't until the summer. Read more: http://www.manchestercity.vitalfootball.co.uk/stats.asp?a=271250#ixzz1l8l5YaUz
spu 4 life
Good result last night....another man u player does his x a favour
spu 4 life
typical spud fan ---typical spud fan ---typical spud fan ---typical spud fan ---typical spud fan ---typical spud fan ---typical spud fan ---typical spud fan ---typical spud fan ---typical spud fan ---typical spud fan ---typical spud fan ---typical spud fan ---typical spud fan ---typical spud fan ---typical spud fan ---typical spud fan --- that would be all telling the truth...never mind
spu 4 life
Although I do agree the standard of refereeing is degenerating in the EPL I don't think you can really blame the ref for this one. I just don't think you done enough. Teams will set up to disrupt you, you'll have to accept that. I don't think you can complain too much about what went on last night though. I mean they were no Stoke...
North Upper
I'm personally not complaining too much NU. I did feel Walton favoured them with a lot of 50/50s but that's to be expected at Goodison. I think City fans feel aggrieved because of what has frankly been inept refereeing in almost every game we've played in the last couple of months ( before another Spurs foamer jumps on this, I am aware we got calls in our favour against you (sigh) ). You're right though we didn't do enough but the defeat is very hard to take given we totally outplayed them but just lacked that cutting edge.
Bluedub
Most of the u Citeh fans are a joke. Beaten by the ref? All your money grabbing players were not as good as they should have been and you cant blame the ref when Howard Webb literally gave u 3 points the other week. He shouldnt of been on the pitch for the stamp, therefore wouldnt of won the penalty. Citeh v Spurs should of been a draw, so stop ur b****ing. U deserve some bad luck!
MrPaddytheyid
Another bitter Spurs fan, for Christ sake, this is getting ridiculous now. Yes we know you didn't get a couple of calls your way, get over it. Of you watched our games Paddy you would know that that was the only bit of luck we've got in the last couple of months ( btw I don't hear any of you Spurs fans talking about BAE hauling Dzeko to the ground in that game, were you lucky that the ref didn't spot that one? )
Bluedub
Tattoo Lescott? What the...?
rojo2010
I aint bitter Im just saying what goes around comes around - Hence the title of this article. A couple of calls??? A player stamps on someones head, then later wins a penalty to win the game. Thats not a call thats him handing you points. Yes I have watched your games and agree things havent always gone your way, but bar Man U who has? What I'm saying is you aint the only team to have bad luck. Ade has had 3 goals dissalowed wrongly and that penalty, which is 7 points. Story short - dont complain about refs when you were on the right end of a shocker VERY recently.
MrPaddytheyid
Paddy, we have every right to complain as much as any fan of any club regardless of what happened in our game against you. Who do you think you are telling City fans on a City site not to complain?
Bluedub
Should he of got sent off for the stamp?
MrPaddytheyid
Why is that relevant?
Bluedub
"Who do you think you are telling City fans on a City site not to complain?" I'm a Spurs fan saying that you deserve bad luck after that ridiculous ref display against u lot. Everyone has got a right to complain... But its a joke when its so soon after u were given 3 points so recently. As I said: "Story short - dont complain about refs when you were on the right end of a shocker VERY recently."
MrPaddytheyid
Look at the title of the article u numpty!!! its relevant because you won a game the other week because of a ref!
MrPaddytheyid
Now you're insulting me? Charming! As I said the writer has every right to complain if he feels that we weren't given decisions we should have got. You don't have to agree but you have no right to tell him what to do or not do.
Bluedub
If it wasn't for bad luck we'd have no luck at all Pty. I really do think you've shown yourself up as a troll though, as if YOU read the article you'll notice it's an article about a game of football played by Everton vs manchester City. Which begs the question - if you're not bitter about losing to us, why are you here? Shouldn't you be outside Spurs Lodge with your newly printed Saha shirt on?
fifthcolumnblue
"We deserve bad luck after that ridiculous ref display"? So Man City deserve bad luck because a referee performed badly in a game. Christ, that's poor.
rojo2010
If you genuinely find the word numpty that insulting then I apologise.
MrPaddytheyid
read what I said and you cant argue... Everyone has bad luck and you did last night. But you do deserve bad luck after the spurs game. Once again did he deserve to get sent off? Yes! Would you have won the game? No. End of. There's no winning here for either any of us coz we are arguing the same point that refs can be (rap. Off to a proper forum now, u lot are a disgrace to complain about a ref when u won because of one.
MrPaddytheyid
So we can't argue with your logic that because we have good luck in one game we deserve bad in another? Sorry pal but that makes no sense whatsoever.
Bluedub
Spurs and logic. We'll do the oxy, you bring the moron paddy.
fifthcolumnblue
haha I knew u would carry on! what im saying is I find it weird that you are complaining about a ref when you was on the other side of a bad decision the other week. (good one fifthcolumn :s ) laters
MrPaddytheyid
I see Assou-Ekotto isn't being charged for his horror tackle...
StuMCFC
Would seem that Roberto Martinez at least has the class not to come out and suggest that BAE has a history of such challenges Stu - unlike certain cockney alleged tax cheats I could mention. And we all know that the FA won't act unless the challenge is shown 300 times per hour in Slow-mo on Sky.
fifthcolumnblue
Why would BAE get done up for a horror tackle? He plays for lovable Spurs, Sky won't punish them for anything.
PhillyBlueMoon
FCB, Lescott on Kaboul was the best forearm smash I have seen in WWF. Nothing 50-50 about that in my book. Kompany v Man Ure was unlucky granted but evened itself out with Balotelli. We all get poor decisions. Ours was v Stoke, 2 pens and a sending off not given. We will all have to see where we are in the end, but ref was not that poor tonight, Citeh were. Didn't think you deserved to win.
COYS R US
You telling me you watched the Everton City match in preference to the "Mighty Spurs©" CRUS? Or are you just basing your opinions on the edited highlights you saw on MoTD? Because if that's where you're getting your opinions from then they're not worth listening to.
fifthcolumnblue
It was live on SkyHD and couldn't get to ours live midweek. So yes saw 90 mins. I enjoy football and you do play nice stuff but to blame the ref solely last night was not quite right. Just thought you ran out of ideas and they nicked it. It was typical that an ex Manure scumbag (just like ex gooners in our case) come back to haunt you.
COYS R US
I thought you guys would like us adding our views to a common topic as our participation has swelled your forum 7 fold to your normal posts. You typically only have max 10 comments. Not really a debate then.
COYS R US
Pity it's being swelled by the views of bitter Spuds fans, the majority of whom have no reasoned debate to put forward. Never watched a game online coys??? Hardly...
rojo2010
Nobody is soleley blaming the ref mate, it's been acknowledged by many posters on here that we were not very good last night. But just as with the Liverpool CC semi-final, the referee's decisions (or lack thereof) had a major influence on the outcome of the game. Sure they nicked it, but football is meant to be about kicking a round inflatable ball, not the opposition players, and when snide little thugs like Drenthe get away with diving and fouling all night, and get let off with a yellow for what many people acknowledge was a red card offence, how can we not feel upset? One week a completely accidental handball is given as a penalty against us, the next week, a much worse offence goes unpunished. It's a farce, and it's not the first time we've seen an incredibly harsh decision given against us, only for a more punishable infringement to be not given for us. The vital servers would have melted by now if these persistent bad decisions had gone against you - don't kid yourself that wouldn't be the case. And I won't kid myself that our loss last night was entirely the referee's fault, because it wasn't. But he certainly helped us lose.
fifthcolumnblue
As a Spurs fan,I have to admit City have been very unlucky (except the Spurs game where they were) with referring decisions recently, against ManU, against Liverpool, yesterday game 2, gotta call it as we see it.
Ossie
Agreed FCB. Rojo, unless it is different up there, the streaming online leaves much to be desired especially when watching Spurs as the demand is higher than some teams so as I spend £70 per month for Sky+HD then i like to use it. As I said I enjoy good football and both teams play it well. You cannot deny the City v THFC game was great entertainment. Neither team deserved to lose.
COYS R US
how can a referee who lives in The Wirral be allowed to officiate in Matches that involve the 2 Mersey side clubs?last time i looked The Wirral is part of Merseyside is it not?and not as some deluded residents who think its in Cheshire? every referee who lives within 30 miles of the home team should not be allowed to officiate in those clubs matches, and sadly that would include Mark Halsey who lives in Bolton(who i think is the FA's top official, better than Webb) not being allowed to referee in either manchester nor Merseysides matches,Butin my opinion home town' bias' will be alliviated..... and the referee was a homer will be consigned to the dustbin,in most cases, their will always be the Anfield and Swamp bias/ fear factor from 'some refs.....
cityman51
To be honest City deserved to get something from the game and yes some of the refing raised eyebrows ,but these games away from home where every win is another step to the title will put pressure on the players where the result is more important than the performance .I do not believe there an agenda against any team it would be sad thing if true. form away from home is the problem
nickster
If you look back you will see i posted on another forum you guys had. The ref's do not have any consistency what so ever, our game last night vs wigan, had it been another ref would have given out yellow cards and BAE should have been given a straight red for his over the ball tackle, it took added time before he gave a wigan player a yellow card, why then the game was over, , Kompany got sent off, when he took the ball, Glenn Johnson had he connected with Lescott, could have resulted in a very serious injury, but no red card, leaping in off the ground two footed, so all the banter is fun, take it, give it, for sure. Prem ref's should be made to stand up and give reasons in front of the managers, for poor performances, but it will continue as the season un-folds to the very end.
spu 4 life
How did Royston Drenthe stay on the pitch after this? Oh yeah, forgot, peter Walton was the referee...
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fifthcolumnblue
Its not just City it's happening too. It's everyone. The ref's are shocking. Shocking mistakes. Constantly and consistently to nobody in particular. To suggest otherwise is quite self centred.
meee93
Nobody said it's just City Meee93 ( interesting choice of username considering you're talking about being self centred ;) ). We just seem to have got a run of games over the last two months that decisions or the rub of the green or whatever you want to call it isn't going our way. ( with the odd exception of course before anyone starts )
Bluedub
"Well once again at least four or five key decisions went against City. Clearly there is a hidden agenda going on here." That suggests that the author does seem to think it's the world against City. Which it clearly is not.
meee93
It suggests he believes there's an agenda against City, he doesn't say it's exclusive to City. I don't believe there's an agenda for the record, I just believe it's incompetence and fear tbh.
Bluedub
"Which it clearly is not." - it's not clear at all, the amount of decisions against us since the 6-1 are highly irregular and seem to have doubled. First challenges lead to yellow cards constantly (like Kompany against Everton for a textbook innocent foul), red cards constantly, double standard by the FA, and non-calls for stonewall penalties again and again. It has reached the point where Marwood is seeking face-to-face talks with the FA as he believes our reputation is influencing referees. Look at Peter Walton's record taking charge of our games before and after the takeover. You will be amazed: http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/manchester-city/schiedsrichterdetail/verein_281_388.html
StuMCFC
They have to do something about the refs, I do honestly think though the game is moving too fast for them. Not that I'm condoning some of the decisions. What do you think the American football style with umpires scattered around the pitch? Mind you the Europa Cup trial was a farce I thought, I don't think I saw one of those "extra" refs give a decision. Still they did have nice batons...
North Upper
I am loving the fact that City fans keep calling Spuds fans bitter etc because they bring up the officiating in their game, and yet, City are complaining about the officiating (although Spurs fans actually have an argument) against Everton. City fans, you a bit bitter lads? I know FCB definetly is.
Rob-EFC
Rob, we are discussing a game that has just happened. Spurs fans are discussing something that happened 2 weeks ago, that suggests they are bitter about it. Everton fans are up there in the bitterness stakes, just listen to your crowd still booing Lescott, who if you hadn't sold for twice his worth you would probably have gone under at this stage.
Bluedub
There's also the fact that the Spurs match hinged on two incidents, whereas the likes of Drenthe kicked absolute lumps out of our players (not to mention his persistent diving - who does he think he is, Luis Suarez?) the entire match.
fifthcolumnblue
 

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